BKZer0 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 This is something else to take into consideration. I am a firm follower of SM Codex standards. If you are sticking to that as well, Shoulder trim typically denotes company affiliation: I - White/SilverII - Yellow/GoldIII - RedIV - GreenV - BlackVI - Orange/BrownVII - PinkVIII - Gray IX - Blue X - None Now, to throw my opinion into the mix. I would go with the yellow trim. The yellow helmet looks excellent with your green. More of that yellow/green mix throughout the squad would be great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 If this is truly your first attempt at painting 40k miniatures you are well on your way to painting some amazing miniatures, now don't get me wrong I have little in the way of critique you seem to have all the basics down pat. If I were to offer any constructive criticism it would be to use the highlight technique for highlighting that you used on the toes of the boot in other areas that the light would hit (top of helm, backpack and shoulder guards) but glaze over them with your base color. But you dont need to do that as you have some sweet painted miniatures! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch@oZ Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I - White/SilverII - Yellow/Gold III - Red IV - Green V - Black VI - Orange/Brown VII - Pink VIII - Gray IX - Blue X - None I was always under the impression that this was strictly for ultramarines, but i can be wrong. This also explains, why there's so few people willing to build seventh companies. I think a steely silver trim would fit the "no nonsense" feel of this color scheme best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Imperial Fists in the Codex seem to follow the Ultramarines' own interpretation of Company heraldry (coloured pauldron trim). Seventh can also be purple IIRC. As for the three options linked before, I like the yellow trims, but both the other options feel much more military, which I feel suits the Raptors best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 7th is more purple than pink. Used to be Warlock Purple. Pink isn't used by Imperial that I'm aware of. It's reserved for the Emperors own Children ;) http://images.wikia.com/spacemarine/images/8/8c/CodexAstartes_organization.jpg I don't think the Raptors really use the company colours apart from a helmet stripe on the sergeant black helmet. They more go for squad numbers on the knee. Makes sense with them being the main chapter know to actively use camouflage. You can download the FW Chapter Tactics V2 which has the Raptors http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/B/FWchaptertactics-v2.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The distinction between pink and purple is actually super subjective. Curse those non-standardised retinal cone cells! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Only know that due to old Index Astartes stuff and I've been looking at a lot of pink and purple of late. Best bet is companies 2-5 as these are the standard 6 tactical, 2 assault, 2 devastator companies. The others are more specialised. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Black or grey pad trim, helps keep the palette muted and suits the Raptors' innate pragmatism. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/d/d4/Raptor2.jpg 6th company veteran Sgt. 4th tactical squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadistic Imp Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm starting to get really confused, heh. I painted the trim black, it looks real nice with a grey highlight. I'll post later! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherCaptainArkhan Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Really nice work. Look forward to seeing more, Raptors are an awesome Chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3592958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Worst thing is (and I'm gonna get shot for this), I'm tempted to do a kill team. Lots of pouches and weathered equipment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3593004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadistic Imp Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yeah, I'm gonna start weathering all of mine once the squad is done, and also add the grandes/pouches and whatnot to help feel the theme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3593033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The distinction between pink and purple is actually super subjective. Curse those non-standardised retinal cone cells! Possibly some people may have trouble distinguishing, but the 7th is definitely purple, not pink, lol. http://games-workshop.com/pi/w40k/insignium/04_07_1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3593049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lionheart Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 You're all wrong, it's violet! I was going to weigh in and say the grey trim from the third photo caught my attention. I know I suggested yellow trim, and I think that could look good, perhaps for your veterans, to go along with the higher-ranking helmet markings, maybe? I'm keen to see how your black/grey trim worked, anyway. I wouldn't worry too much about sticking to the codex company markings. Only boring space-smurfs fret about those anyway! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3593318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yak Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yep don't forget that according to the ultramarines our reckless disregard for the codex astartes is legendary ;-) Id go with what you... A = find visually pleasing and B = enjoy painting the most personally I find painting shoulder pad rims a chore. When the enemy sees a Raptor he's dead anyway. We don't need colour codes to know who's killed who, honour and glory are the wicked little sisters of foolishness. Getting the job done is all that matters to us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3593359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 7th is more purple than pink. Used to be Warlock Purple. Pink isn't usedby Imperial that I'm aware of. It's reserved for the Emperors own Children Who he disowned. Emperor: There will be NO pink in my frickin' army, Fulgrim. Got that! And thus, the Heresy was born... <#3 in the Top Ten Reasons for the Horus Heresy> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3593384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadistic Imp Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 So I haven't yet got around to the weathering but I have finished another four marines. It's been a slow process with work and all. Regardless. Oh, also changed my bases. The ones you see in this pic will be for my entire army. Also going to load them up with all the little belt packs just to help fit the 'survivor' theme. I feel my painting is improving :) Thanks! http://i57.tinypic.com/iw23h1.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/2a6rzax.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/2090ept.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3600278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder69 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 These look awesome! And I'm jealous of how well done your FIRST minis are. The only thing I would point out is the decals. Before applying, go over the spot with a clear gloss like the GW 'Ardcoat. This will give a nice smoth surface for the decal to adhere to. Then get yourself some Microsol/Microset/Solvaset which is a solvent that softens the decal and makes it lay flat and adhere better. Then go over it again with a gloss coat, then when that's dry give it a matte coat (Lahmian Medium or matte spray if you're spraying your models). That will help keep from getting the white-ish air bubbles you see in the edging around the symbol and make it look painted on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3600280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadistic Imp Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Thanks heaps man! Oh my decals haven't arrived yet, that arrow was done with codex grey then bleached bone then a thin brown wash to put a border around the bone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3600297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly_bear Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Those are some nice raptors fella, well done indeed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3600306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 <Honda risks getting raised eyebrows from Forte> I must also compliment you on your leather work. Outstanding! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3600382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 <Honda risks getting raised eyebrows from Forte> I must also compliment you on your leather work. Outstanding! What did I do this time? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3600387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 What did I do this time? Dude, you don't have to do anything. You're the face of the EC. Innuendo is one of your Warlord traits. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3600403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 What did I do this time? Dude, you don't have to do anything. You're the face of the EC. Innuendo is one of your Warlord traits. ;) I may have to steal that for my sig ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286540-new-player-first-army-raptor-chapter-wip/page/2/#findComment-3600409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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