Bartali Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 How best to utilize Corbulo tanking for a unit ? As a basic idea :- Librarian Inquisitor w/ Liber Heresius, Pysker Corbulo 10x TH/SS Terminators is 720pts Inquisitor gives the unit Scout (with a passed leadership test), Psy-Out Grenades and another source of Divination. Librarian also rolls on Divination, with Corbulo tanking. Thoughts, alternative suggestions ? Edit - A possible list idea at 1500 Librarian Inquisitor w/ Liber Hersius, Psyker Corbulo 10x TH/SS Terminators Furioso Dreadnought w/ Claws, Pod 2x 5 ASM w / Flamer, TL-HF Razor DC w/ some stuff, Pod DC Dread w/ Claws, Pod More points, add more ASM. in Razors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Don't? Deathstars doesn't really work unless it's something extremely mobile and even sicker like screamer star. Corbulo can be bypassed by barrages, mobile shooting and focus fire shenanigans by enemy units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3588606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 I think getting Scout off the Inquisitor is key, and presenting other threats in the first turn.otherrwise agree, It's easy enough to block LOS to Corbulo and shoot the rest of the unit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3588610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 For that 720pts: Shrike (he's 160 ish, right?) 13 DC, bolters, jump packs. 7 power weapons. Throw in a BA divination libraian for funsies. The termie star is just so big and slow. Shrike also gives one of the stealth/shrouded to the DC turn 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3588645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I thought Shrike only conferred his SRs on a unit with CT:RG? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3588665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Shrike converts stealth and infiltrate to the Unit he joins. They are not chapter tactics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3588688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 So he does. I don't see where he gets Shrouded from, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3588722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 For that 720pts: Shrike (he's 160 is has saint ?) 13 DC, bolters, jump packs. 7 power weapons. Throw in a BA divination libraian for funsies. The termie star is just so big and slow. Shrike also gives one of the stealth/shrouded to the DC turn 1. Big is fine as that gives you board control. They are indeed slow, but Scout is putting them into assault in your opponents deployment zone turn 2. The problem with DC is that a 35pt 1W 3+ body isn't that durable in today's game Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3588783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 So he does. I don't see where he gets Shrouded from, though. I said stealth/shrouded - I couldn't remember which he gave. Infiltrating terms is ok. It was a big part of 5th ed SM lists, Shrikenators. That died out, though. Combining them with podded troops to absorb some of the anti infantry firepower is a good idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3588937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogen Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I posted an army list a month or so ago that used Corbulo and Lysander tanking for centurions. That way you've got an eternal warrior close combat beast and Corbulo tanking for a big ol pile of shooting. Add in a librarian with prescience and you've got yourself a Death Star! True, not terribly fast but 5x prescience centurions are putting out a LOT of hurt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3589246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I posted an army list a month or so ago that used Corbulo and Lysander tanking for centurions. That way you've got an eternal warrior close combat beast and Corbulo tanking for a big ol pile of shooting. Add in a librarian with prescience and you've got yourself a Death Star! True, not terribly fast but 5x prescience centurions are putting out a LOT of hurt. The limited mobilty on that is crippling though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3589512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 For that 720pts: Shrike (he's 160 is has saint ?) 13 DC, bolters, jump packs. 7 power weapons. Throw in a BA divination libraian for funsies. The termie star is just so big and slow. Shrike also gives one of the stealth/shrouded to the DC turn 1. Big is fine as that gives you board control. They are indeed slow, but Scout is putting them into assault in your opponents deployment zone turn 2. The problem with DC is that a 35pt 1W 3+ body isn't that durable in today's game DC just need a diversion so they don't get focused on. They are durable with their FnP, but you have to be smart with them. Can't just run them around the board and stop to smell the roses. My point is, when a unit is grossly expensive, and good at killing everything they assault, you need to keep them protected until the right time to strike. As for that DC unit with Shrike, it lacks a chaplain or reclusiarch. Those re rolls are crucial. Podded units right in front of your enemy will force them to deal with them, while your DC are able to be in combat most likely by turn 2. I use fragiosos, but cheaper units have the same(ish) effect. 20 marines with bolters is still a threat, and will allow your DC unit to get in close for a counter charge or take on the bigger threats. If you want a super killy unit of DC, put them in a LR Crusader, armed with few fists and power weapons, infernus pistols, corbs for 2+ FnP tanking, a terminator libby w/ storm shield for divination, and a chaplain with a fist for the re-rolls in combat. Expensive, but oh well, thats the name of the game. Still have room for another couple of good scoring units and a raven for air support. So for 1750pts I can get: HQ: Libby in terminator armour w/storm shield 145pts HQ: Reclusiarch w/ power fist 145pts ELITES: Corbulo 105pts Sang Priest 50pts TROOP: 2x 9 man assault squad in pods w/ 1 melta gus (w/Priest) 182pts 1x10 man assault squad in pod w/ 2 melta guns 210pts 1x 6 man assault squad in pod w/ 1 melta gun 128 pts 1x10 man DC w/ 2 power fists, 3 power weapons, 2 infernus pistols, Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-Melta 585pts HEAVY SUPPORT: Storm Raven w/ TLAC, TLMM 200pts All your characters run with the DC, and you drop the 2 full pods down turn 1, hopefully giving you FnP to both squads if you can position it properly. Never tried it, but looks decent on paper. Lots of anti tank, lots of CC attacks, anti air, and AV14. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3589536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogen Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I posted an army list a month or so ago that used Corbulo and Lysander tanking for centurions. That way you've got an eternal warrior close combat beast and Corbulo tanking for a big ol pile of shooting. Add in a librarian with prescience and you've got yourself a Death Star! True, not terribly fast but 5x prescience centurions are putting out a LOT of hurt. The limited mobilty on that is crippling though. Definitely agree - you need to accompany this kind of build with a solid deep strike/drop pod type unit(s). Once I get it painted up Ill be rolling a toned down version of this death star with 2x storm ravens and dante/sanguinary guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3589883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azradia_the_Undying Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Something i've always wanted to run is corbullo, Ezekiel with presience and 7 deathwing knights in crusader. They'll have good mobility and protection until they reach the front lines, toughness 5 and 2+ 3++ for the terminators will be will absorb anything that could insta kill corbullo; corbullo then will tank all the small arms fire thats tossed his way......now if only there was a way to toss it wil not die on grandmaster tankenstien.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3590277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 sadly Corbs cant use the ally raider (or vice versa) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286549-building-a-corbulo-deathstar/#findComment-3590455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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