Kol Saresk Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Maybe. Except Aximand didn't die and Tarik Torgaddon makes a reappearance in Know No Fear as a daemon called Tormageddon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3592716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Now that's a ridiculous name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3592954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Now that's a ridiculous name. Agreed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3592984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Well, if they kill Loken then his name will be Lokageddon :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3592985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 No Armageddon hence why angron wants the place to burn. Loken asked him to politely leave terra & angron could not believe his rudeness and ripped off his arm from that day forth loken was armless and in honour of his sacrafice he got a system named after him Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3592996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 On the name Tormageddon, wasn't that Tormageddon Rex the name of the daemonically possessed battleship that featured in the Gaunt's Ghosts novel Salvation's Reach? Also by Mr Abnett? So Tarik may still be kicking around in 40k, albeit it as a massive battleship. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 On the name Tormageddon, wasn't that Tormageddon Rex the name of the daemonically possessed battleship that featured in the Gaunt's Ghosts novel Salvation's Reach? Also by Mr Abnett? So Tarik may still be kicking around in 40k, albeit it as a massive battleship. Part of the ship? Part of the crew? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 On the name Tormageddon, wasn't that Tormageddon Rex the name of the daemonically possessed battleship that featured in the Gaunt's Ghosts novel Salvation's Reach? Also by Mr Abnett? So Tarik may still be kicking around in 40k, albeit it as a massive battleship. Know No Fear, Page 346 Tarik reborn, he-who-is-now-Tormageddon. And is it really that ridiculous when compared to Ferrus Manus, Primarch of the Iron Hands? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm not saying that that isn't the name, or that it isn't Tarik. I'm saying is Abnett chucking in a reference that the entity he becomes might later possess a battleship? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Oh, maybe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The one who only knew how to say his own name, albeit loudly enough to be heard in space? Oh, Tarik. Let's face it, you didn't have that much of a wit beforehand either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Nobody said it was a picnic! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 In the Collected Visions, there is a small piece of SoH art, with a heavily corrupted Legionaire named Tormageddon. I'm assuming that's the reference, though the question remains if it really is Tarik (which would be very odd), or if it's the name of the daemon who ate Tarik's soul and possessed a different body. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 In the Collected Visions, there is a small piece of SoH art, with a heavily corrupted Legionaire named Tormageddon. I'm assuming that's the reference, though the question remains if it really is Tarik (which would be very odd), or if it's the name of the daemon who ate Tarik's soul and possessed a different body. It could be another case of retcon a la "Somehow the Night Lords were sent to Isstvan after going Renegade." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Maybe? Hard to say, at this point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 In the Collected Visions, there is a small piece of SoH art, with a heavily corrupted Legionaire named Tormageddon. I'm assuming that's the reference, though the question remains if it really is Tarik (which would be very odd), or if it's the name of the daemon who ate Tarik's soul and possessed a different body.It could be another case of retcon a la "Somehow the Night Lords were sent to Isstvan after going Renegade." Is there something that says explicitly "The Night Lords were here at Planet A when the Dropsite was going on"? It's like people saying Forgeworld putting Nostramo twenty years before the Heresy was a retcon. Upon looking through the IA articles, my response was "Have you read the older fluff" because it has the Night Lords blowing up Nostramo and then going on a rampage that is said to affect dozens of worlds and they go so far out of known space that the Imperium has to send recon fleets just to see if they still exist. In a galaxy that is so interconnected that the reputation of an enemy can spread far enough that entire planets can hear who is coming and surrender well in advance, something like this takes time. Sure, the Imperium can lose communications, but lose track of an entire Legion? That is a bit more unlikely in the timespan of "Nostramo blows up. BAM! Istvaan V." With what is already there in the IA article, showing that there was a serious enough amount of time that not only could an entire Legion cease communication with the Imperium but also manage to get off of its radar makes more sense than "BAM! Event 1, BAM! Event 2." There was a similar reaction when A D-B put some Night Lords on Terra. "OMG! Buttclench! Nothing says they were there!" Well one, A D-B never said the Legion was there. We just see some Night Lords were there. Two, the IA articles said they were headed to Terra. Three, so all that means is that when you look at the Siege of Terra as written by Imperial historians, all it means is that the Night Lords were just another unnamed force amongst the Traitors, much like many of the Titan and Imperial Army forces. Unless it is a retcon that they were there too since they aren't specifically named by regiment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 You misunderstood me brother. I will expand it as : with the discovery of traitors within their ranks, the imperium (With Dorn, who experienced the Lightning Tower) sent the thrusted Night Lords in a retribution force? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Night Lords volunteered. Besides, if trust was an issue, why send the Alpha Legion when the watch-pack Malcador sent after Alpharius "disappeared"? Also, recall that Ferrus did receive orders about the Night Lords that were never expounded upon. Wouldn't be surprising if Dorn thought this was a way to kill two birds with stone by removing the Traitors and bringing Curze back to Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 In the Collected Visions, there is a small piece of SoH art, with a heavily corrupted Legionaire named Tormageddon. I'm assuming that's the reference, though the question remains if it really is Tarik (which would be very odd), or if it's the name of the daemon who ate Tarik's soul and possessed a different body. Or Tarik's dead body. Abaddon, in the short story "Chosen of Chaos" seems quite fond of doing that kind of stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I mean, was there even a single watch pack or custodes still in place at that point? I can see Malcador getting is weekly report and spewing out his coffee at seeing the result ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 In the Collected Visions, there is a small piece of SoH art, with a heavily corrupted Legionaire named Tormageddon. I'm assuming that's the reference, though the question remains if it really is Tarik (which would be very odd), or if it's the name of the daemon who ate Tarik's soul and possessed a different body.Well Dan Abnett seems to think "Tarik reborn" and I keep hearing tell of Luna Mendex which was a short in the Black Library Weekender anthology that has Tarik telling Loken that "something bad happened to him". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 You misunderstood me brother. I will expand it as : with the discovery of traitors within their ranks, the imperium (With Dorn, who experienced the Lightning Tower) sent the thrusted Night Lords in a retribution force? It's explained in FW's Massacre that "loyalist" forces believed it was due to Curze and the Night Lords original personae of punishing sinners that made them return and take part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I mean, was there even a single watch pack or custodes still in place at that point? I can see Malcador getting is weekly report and spewing out his coffee at seeing the result ;) "LEMAN RUSS DID WHAT WITH ANGRON?!?!" "Servitor 03652-Alpha, go fetch me some more insta cafe from Space Starbucks...this is gonna be a long day..." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Is he dead? Or is he really dead? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3593564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terranraida Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 In the Collected Visions, there is a small piece of SoH art, with a heavily corrupted Legionaire named Tormageddon. I'm assuming that's the reference, though the question remains if it really is Tarik (which would be very odd), or if it's the name of the daemon who ate Tarik's soul and possessed a different body.Well Dan Abnett seems to think "Tarik reborn" and I keep hearing tell of Luna Mendex which was a short in the Black Library Weekender anthology that has Tarik telling Loken that "something bad happened to him". I'm like 99% sure Loken is legally insane at this point, from the whole "Cerberus" bit, I am sure that Loken is just having the worst case of PTSD and Tarik is just a figment of his imagination. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286638-possible-hint-at-answer-of-tarvitz-outcome/page/4/#findComment-3594344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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