Flint13 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Morning Guys! Check this awesome business out. I emailed Forgeworld to see if they'd dish their secrets on the super cool looking Nightlords they have been turning out. The answer surprised me... Hi Jaysin, Please find below our colour scheme for the Night Lords. NIGHT LORDS COLOUR SCHEME 1. The models were undercoated with GW Black Spray 2. The models were dry brushed with Rub and Buff Pewter, bringing the black undercoat upto a silver colour. 3. Tamaiya Clear Blue and Clear Red were mixed together to make a clear purple which was applied over the whole model in 3-4 very thin coats. 4. Once the model had dried, the whole thing was airbrushed with a layer of Auto Air colour Transparent Blue. 5. The Lightning strikes were painted on with Administratum Grey as a base coat. Then were the lightning strikes meet, it was highlighted with white. 6. Once the model had dried, it was protected with a coating of GW Purity Seal. If there is anything further we can do to assist you, or if you have any queries about the information we have requested or provided, please telephone us.Regards, Forge World How super awesome is that? They barely use any "traditional" paint. Also, Tamiya clear purple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Strange no? I'd expect they'd stick to GW paints out of corporate loyalty! :huh: Regardless - a very interesting recipe there... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Psss. Your name is showing. But yeah, I'm going to stick with simple. What with my whole three models of practice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 *shrug* ehh. My name is Jaysin. It's just a lady-fied boys' name. I'm not super worried I really want to try this now that I've got the secret of it. I've actually got a lot of Tamiya red and blue (from painting Nightlord and Dark Eldar vehicle canopies respectively) sitting around, so besides Transparent blue airbrush paint, I've got all this. I wonder what the deal is with the rub n buff Pewter color is? I think they're some sort of antique restoration paints, but I'm not sure the significance of using it over leadbelcher, or something similar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 lol. I think it was to make a shiny iron color. Like a polished, shiny iron. From what I've seen of leadbelcher, its metallic but it isn't really...... I don't know, there's just a certain "oomph" that it seems to miss as it is a darker color. Could be absolutely wrong though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Being honest. I find there version a bit bright. And many people on here have their own versions which look much darker, more 'midnight', and more menacing. I mainly want to know when Terror Squads are coming out and if they'll release night lord heads, torsos, and glaves. Like the raptor ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Pretty impressed they've admitted it straight out - I'd be interested in knowing what they do for the unobtainable Sons of Horus green with GW paints... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koriel Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Didn't somebody say (can't remember who it was) that FW caught abit of flak for their somewhat "mediocre" paintjobs on the earliest HH models? Since then they really have upped their game. On another note, anybody else noticed that they seem to use a metalic base for alot of the legions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Every time someone asks them for a paint recipe, they've always responded with a formula that includes Tamiya paints. I think it's quite telling. As for: Didn't somebody say (can't remember who it was) that FW caught abit of flak for their somewhat "mediocre" paintjobs on the earliest HH models? Since then they really have upped their game. Most of their models are from a team member's actual collection. They don't have an 'Eavy Metal team or an equivalent, so their quality does vary a fair bit. Or so I've been told. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 A lot of their model making staff are also into building "real" models and will bring such techniques to their FW stuff, which will include paints of other manufacturers. Phil Stutcinskas is damn near a legend in the armor building world because he's not only won some of the highest awards possible for it, he also invented the hairspray technique for weathering which completely changed the entire hobby and is now considered de rigueur in that world. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 A lot of their model making staff are also into building "real" models and will bring such techniques to their FW stuff, which will include paints of other manufacturers. Phil Stutcinskas is damn near a legend in the armor building world because he's not only won some of the highest awards possible for it, he also invented the hairspray technique for weathering which completely changed the entire hobby and is now considered de rigueur in that world. Stuff like this is fun to learn! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yeah, I'd emailed them about the Alpha Legion one a while back. Oh man, that one's a real pain. Administratum grey base for lightning, eh? Strange, but I suppose it works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3592941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Forge World never ceases to amaze me at how much of a bro they are. They seem willing to answer almost any hobby/rule question via email. I suspect they did the paint using so many clear paints because it's easier to mix two Tamiya Clears and then use tinting to paint for that blue than it was to muck about mixing solid blacks and dark blues. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 First of all, great job Flint for getting this info. I never heard of the metal paints, will try them out. Second: Yeah, I'd emailed them about the Alpha Legion one a while back. Oh man, that one's a real pain. Administratum grey base for lightning, eh? Strange, but I suppose it works. That's great! Please post your Alhpa Legion findings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Being honest. I find there version a bit bright. And many people on here have their own versions which look much darker, more 'midnight', and more menacing. I mainly want to know when Terror Squads are coming out and if they'll release night lord heads, torsos, and glaves. Like the raptor ones. I'll ask them at the FW open day ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Being honest. I find there version a bit bright. And many people on here have their own versions which look much darker, more 'midnight', and more menacing. I mainly want to know when Terror Squads are coming out and if they'll release night lord heads, torsos, and glaves. Like the raptor ones. I'll ask them at the FW open day ;) Thank you. I'm sure they'll be many grateful people too. Have fun too you lucky person you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm going to fight the urge as much as I can but I'm sure there'll come a point where fanboi rage takes over and I simply beg them to get some more Night Lord material out. And yes lucky person doesn't come close. Blagged the very last couple of tickets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 First of all, great job Flint for getting this info. I never heard of the metal paints, will try them out. Second: Yeah, I'd emailed them about the Alpha Legion one a while back. Oh man, that one's a real pain. Administratum grey base for lightning, eh? Strange, but I suppose it works. That's great! Please post your Alhpa Legion findings. Going off topic here for this: ALPHA LEGION 1. AIRBRUSH WITH THINNED LEAD BELCHER/ IRON BREAKER (50/50 MIX) 2. AIRBRUSH FROM TOP OF MODEL WITH THINNED RUNFANG STEEL 3. MIX A LITTLE TAMIYA CLEAR GREEN WITH TAMIYA CLEAR BLUE (25/75 MIX) AND AIRBRUSH OVER THE MODEL IN 2 COATS 4. AIRBRUSH ARMOUR PANELS WITH TAMIYA CLEAR BLUE. BLENDING FROM MIDDLE OF FIGURE DOWN, SO THE STRONGEST BLUE COLOUR IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PANNELS 5. AIRBRUSH FROM THE MIDDLE UPWARDS WITH TAMIYA CLEAR GREEN 6. USING AN AIRBRUSH BLEND A HIGHLIGHT ON THE HIGHEST PANNELS (HEAD, SHOULDER PADS, TOP OF BACKPACK) WITH RUNEFANG STEEL WITH A TINY AMOUNT OF LOTHERN BLUE, EXTREMELY THINNED DOWN. 7. APPLY THINNED COAT OF TAMIYA CLEAR BLUE OVER THE HIGHLIGHT AND BLEND INTO THE SURROUNDING AREA. 8. USING A BLUE GLAZE, DRAG DOWN THE WHOLE MODEL ALLOWING IT TO SETTLE IN THE DEEPEST AREAS. 9. SILVER – BASECOAT WITH LEADBELCHER 10. WASH WITH NULN OIL 11. HIGHLIGHT WITH LEADBELCHER IN STRIKING MOTIONS TO CREATED CHIPPED AND WEATHER APPEARANCE 12. HIGHLIGHT WITH IRONBREAKER On topic: It almost seems like there's two Night Lords schemes. The brighter Raptors one, and the darker whirlwind and destroyer scheme. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/scorpiusp5.jpg That looks pretty dark to me. On the other hand, http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/night-raptors2a.jpg That's brighter. And looks like it's the actual method they used in the email. I want that dark recipe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Every time someone asks them for a paint recipe, they've always responded with a formula that includes Tamiya paints. I think it's quite telling. As for: Didn't somebody say (can't remember who it was) that FW caught abit of flak for their somewhat "mediocre" paintjobs on the earliest HH models? Since then they really have upped their game. Most of their models are from a team member's actual collection. They don't have an 'Eavy Metal team or an equivalent, so their quality does vary a fair bit. Or so I've been told. Yeah, that's correct - although it seems for certain showcase pieces that they do have someone to bring it out in all its glory... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Considering some of their sculptors are also very competent model makers too. Mark Bedford who used to be responsible for most of the scenery you would see in White Dwarf and Keith Robertson who is an amazing painter. And the one formerly known as tortoise on many forums. I'm pretty sure there's a fair few Golden Daemon trophies between them all. I'd say they are actually better at painting than Eavy Metal who have their hands tied to the paints GW sells. All you have to do is look at the Model Masterclass books to see it. They could teach Eavy Metal to airbrush properly, weathering, basing and many other techniques too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I couldn't swear it's true but word that leaked out way back when Keith Robertson left Eavy Metal was due to the limitation of the paints. And this was still back when GW only ever sold paints that needed to be mixed in ungodly combinations to achieve the shade you wanted Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Says a lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3593800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
batu Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Thanks for sharing Flint ! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286749-fw-nightlords-colour-scheme/#findComment-3594752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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