GodEmperorOfMankind Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Well I'll be taking 3 as my lord of war choice for an admech army whatever the rules say. I like it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3595539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massaen Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Depends on his they integrate into 30k As they are for 40k they can be allied or primary but are NOT lords of war from everything I have read Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3595591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Did all the Legions have Titan support? Just wondering how to fit a Knight squad into my Heresy Era Space Wolves Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3595831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I can't imagine every legion had Titan support for every battle at every stage for every Chapter / Battalion / Company - just thinking of how many marines some of them had spread across the universes. Just not possible. However, I would imagine that they were available upon requirements to every chapter accordingly. An entire chapter invading a planet after finding out how impenetrable or aggressive their enemies were ? Sure. Dropping a Battalion into an area that is heavily fortified ? Sure. Invading a location on a planet when they don't have time to plan ? Maybe there was no time to call them. A company doing regular mop-up duty on a planet post compliance ? Nah, they have better things to do. I guess it depends - do they have time to call them as support? Are they needed? Is it within the logistical parameters and 'cost' relative to requirements? Is it a viable option in relation to the mission requirements? That's my take anyway. But then, I haven't read all fluff to see if they were made available or not to specific chapters or for specific requirements. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3595920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I believe titan support was based on Expedition Fleet, not Legion per se. But it has been written that certain legions commonly deployed with the same Titan Legio. Much the same with Guard Units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3595965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thanks guys. Just thought maybe I had missed something in the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3595980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Here an interesting question about knights, which house(I think that the name for the different groups/clan), survived the horus heresy, and still operate today? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3596858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Just to keep everyone updated with the release, there is no mention in the article about allying with the Heresy and only one set of rules is given. The way its done, it is basically a mini-codex of Super-heavy Walkers. That's right, you heard me. There a few houses named, House Raven and House Cadmus for example as well as "Freeswords". Name sounds self-explanatory but basically, roaming knights who have either been kicked out of their houses or have left for whatever personal reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3600614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Re: stubbers. Remember that stubbers are pretty much modern guns, and a heavy stubber is a modern machine gun. We see them in civilian rabble and IG forces, because it's basically the gun that you use if you don't have lasers and aren't Astartes/Sororitas. So, it's got some machine guns on it, but not heavy bolters... so stubbers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3600628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 The Stubbers main use is to tag what you want to assault anyway :P I kinda like it in relation to knights being part of a slightly different tech base, so the common Imperial bolter/las orthodoxy isnt present.And the rules in Massacre let you take any Imperial Super heavies as Lords of War choices, no reason that wouldnt apply to knights! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3600732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Except that traditionally, Imperial superheavies are kind of their own thing. The Knights are part of their own Codex. The army literally is the Knights and the WD article makes sound they can only be taken as a Primary detachment of Knights, or as an allied detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3600741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Oh certainly, The Wording says "Imperial Superheavies" there is no doubt they are Imperial Superheavies though :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3600749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Not disagreeing. I'm just curious due to the nature of their relation to the game how that would transition into 30K. For example(and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) if I wanted to take a Baneblade as a superheavy, it would be part of my primary attachment. But these are only primary attachment when it is within their own army. Everyone else has to ally them in. So if we take them in 40K, will they be able to be taken normally, or will they have to be taken as allies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3600751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I saw didn't see the kit today. It was very impressive looking and I believe GW learned a thing or two from the GK Dreadknight kit. It's very difficult not to like this kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3600869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 True, and good point Kol, though id be inclined to see it the same way as using some IG or Navy vehicle in the slot, its a Legion x/y/z now and part of the regular FOC. Of course you could also probably field them as allies, though im pretty sure ducking being a lord of war isnt going to win you friends :D Just like fielding a pure Knight army out of the blue! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3600946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I play tested it already with the rules in the white dwarf using a cybernetic Xenos that can change into a truck for a proxy. Don't let the words "super heavy" scare you. Dedicated anti tank will kill it with ease, especially in close combat where you don't get the 4++. Knights need support in order to be effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3601066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cod Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Been thinking bout the use of knights as allies. That would mean that a Lord of War is still able to be taken. So 3 knights as an allied detachment plus 1 warhound as lord of war slot is perfectly legal! Is that how people are reading it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3601095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I would say yes. Although in the Heresy arena, that would have to be a huge force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286798-imperial-knights-sighted/page/2/#findComment-3601112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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