VVolf Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 So i've just finished listening to it, my first audio book. What did people think? I like how we're starting to learn more about the chapters hierarchy, even if they squabble much more then I expected them to. They also made the fight seem somewhat believable, instead of 'Draigo beats him with 1 hand behind his back' like what was inferred in the codex. It was also heavily hinted that Janus is Garro, at least from what I know of the HH series. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Would you mind confirming the spoilery end? I've seen rumour of it, but would like a little confirmation. ;) Alos, did he carve the name on the battlefield, during the battle? Or was that handled differently? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3594123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 >Mortarion's Heart released on Valentine's Day Black Library, why are you so based? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3594150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVolf Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 (Spoliers) He got knocked about by Mortarion, just managing to parry his blows. The battle went downhill from there untill he dropped the True Name bomb which blew Mortarion up. He was basically in pieces when Draigo engraved his heart, still alive but parts were all over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3594186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 What of the two Deathshroud that I understand he was to have basically 'slapped aside' to get to Mortarion ? From first spoiler bits I read previously it seemed as if they just dropped a deuce on everything that wasn't Draigo... (kinda like - yes Draigo is awesome, yeah he can slap a few termies and primarchs around with his little finger when he's angry...) The idea of the true name and blowing Mortie all over sounds a bit more like it... But, if you ask me, Draigo should be slapped about a bit for being so macabre ! (ok ok so I am DG biased :D ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3594519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVolf Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 The Deathshroud are hit with a psychic blast, then shot at. He finishes them with his sword, its not exactly a 1 vs 1 duel scenario. The fight with Mortarion goes very badly for the most part. How easily Mortarion takes out the previous Supreme Grand Master should please you DG fans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3594787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 If the GK knew it, why didn't the previous GKGM drop the Mortarion True Name bomb? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3594915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVolf Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 The last GKSGM didn't get chance, he needed to be in contact with Mortarion to pass it on. It was kind of like a mental suitcase bomb that was rigged to blow when opened. Draigo didn't actually open it so he never knew the name. He passed it into Mortarion when Morty pinned him down. Mortarion killed his predecessor and paladin bodyguard with a toxic mist that melted their skin and armour. The name itself was not known to anyone except the GM who found it in HH records and the SGM. With a name you can control a daemon or bind it, so for safety, they never told the rest of the GK incase Mortarion found out and wouldn't fight them. The plan was to bind him permanently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Thank you for the reply and information. Seems a lot more sensible with the extra details you've added. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Even then, he still hasn't been bound as only "the One" foretold can truly bind and defeat Mortarion. So all Draigo did was make it easier for that person to do so before banishing Mortarion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 So i've just finished listening to it, my first audio book. What did people think? I like how we're starting to learn more about the chapters hierarchy, even if they squabble much more then I expected them to. They also made the fight seem somewhat believable, instead of 'Draigo beats him with 1 hand behind his back' like what was inferred in the codex. It was also heavily hinted that Janus is Garro, at least from what I know of the HH series. What did you hear to suggest Garro? I heard Mortarion elude to Janus being a traitor legionnaire but I didn't hear any indication it was Garro (unless I missed it) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yeah, Garro doesn't exactly fit the bill of treachery, cowardice and one who would betray his brothers for redemption. Garro needs no redemption as he never did anything wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Quick! Someone scream JAAAGGGOOO really loud! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVolf Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I have limited knowledge of the HH, only reading a few books, mainly flight of the einstein, but Draigo says Janus was the first to confront chaos. Morty takes the mick out of him saying 'oh noble, pious Janus' then says he was a coward seeking some half imagined redemption who betrayed his legion. To me, Garro was the first against Chaos, the fact that Morty seems to know him and that he was from a traitor legion. The betrayal and cowardice would be from Mortys point of view. His own captain flees on the Einstein and is ashamed of the Death Guards actions, fighting against his own brothers and going against his primarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I have limited knowledge of the HH, only reading a few books, mainly flight of the einstein, but Draigo says Janus was the first to confront chaos. Morty takes the mick out of him saying 'oh noble, pious Janus' then says he was a coward seeking some half imagined redemption who betrayed his legion. To me, Garro was the first against Chaos, the fact that Morty seems to know him and that he was from a traitor legion. The betrayal and cowardice would be from Mortys point of view. His own captain flees on the Einstein and is ashamed of the Death Guards actions, fighting against his own brothers and going against his primarch. in terms of of "betrayal and cowardice” that's exactly how I took it. In the classic belief "the devil mixes lies with truth" The way Morty pitches it makes you think Janus could have betrayed the imperium. But we knowthose who did not side with their parent legions and fought against are of course another type of traitor. I just didn't think I heard enough to pinpoint Garro. I did not remember the part about the first to confront Chaos however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVolf Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I had a read through the script after I listened to it. Draigo mentions that he was first. Like I said though, I may be wrong. I'm only familiar with Garro and Loken so there may be others that would make more sense. One think I had mixed feelings about was the naming of all 8 GMs. It gave alot more insight into the leadership but it knackers up my fluff. Liked the inclusion of the Dreadknights also, if only an appearance. I actually like the idea, and to see usage of them helps me feel comfortable with the new units. Paladins included. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3595909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 One think I had mixed feelings about was the naming of all 8 GMs. It gave alot more insight into the leadership but it knackers up my fluff. Well yeah, but the GM's aren't immortal. You could always set your timeline backwards to before the current leadership. Sounds like the audiobook was good. I'm still gonna wait for the text version though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3596113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d715 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Never though I would ever hear Space Marines cry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3596988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The following thread has spoilers in it. But my god... http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286926-mortarions-heart-blog-post/page-2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286820-mortarions-heart-spoilers/#findComment-3597093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.