Combat_Vet Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I am working on several things and am I am always looking for input and advice. Rather than clutter my termie thread I will start this one and use it as an ongoin thread for all my work. As the title says I am retired and I do have a sleep disorder, so being as it's winter time my hobby gets lots of hours To practice my painting I dug up a rhino out of one of my scrap boxes and started building it. I soon discovered that the "back" wall was missing and I had to fabricate one. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Bolter%20and%20Chainsword%20Marine/71839C52-5069-48D0-A81E-AF17B28CC60D_zpsvheyttq0.jpg The wheel in the corner is going to be a base for trophy pile. It will be covered with helmets, skulls, shoulder pads, and a few weapons. I figured the variety will let me practice the different colors and add something to the rhino when it's finished. I also added the screens above the seats and attempted to make heart rate monitors. Partly to fill the empty space and party to show the rhino as a CnC vehicle. More to follow I am sure and as always any advice, pointers, or general C&C are welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Very nice wall. I usually glue hatches shut so I don't paint the insides. Be interesting to see what you come up with. Have to say, I like your honesty too. There's time I wish I had a bit of insomnia. Unfortunately, I have a tough of the opposite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3595825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Okay brother, you are like me minus the retirement, I will offer a few critiques. When it comes to painting less is more, always. Masking tape will clean up your straight lines! All in all what you have is good. Keep at it and try new techniques Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3595841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Rage Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Progress looks good, really like those heart rate monitors, kind of reminds me of the assault vehicle in the movie Aliens where it has the read outs on the squad. The hazard stripes are a nice touch as well. I had a plan similar to the trophy idea but instead it was going to be a xeno container holding tyranid parts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3595861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I really wanted to do a dissecting table with sound pick-ups and external speakers (night lords LoL), but just didn't have the room. If I can manage to pull off the trophy pile I may try the original idea with a land raider :) I like the container concept too. Maybe for a small Ordo Xenos team vehicle.......... EDIT- started adding my trophies. Compartment is smaller than I thought. By the time I am done the stack will be at the ceiling http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/38748887-0226-4DE8-BD0B-D625F8D44509_zpsbkasvgn5.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3595873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I think the pile is high enough. If I add more it will be on the floor or the seats. I do like the out come and I enjoyed the practice. Except the yellow. I now remember why I will never do an Imperial Fist army. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/D4239D9C-A64C-4483-A9ED-C6ECF17586E0_zps1pjdcwll.jpg Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Like it. Funny to see the BL bits too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
showatah Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 awesome work. Love the collection of marine bits Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 @ Forte - I was torn between having an abundance of Dark Angel pieces for storyline or a little of everything for painting practice. Should the BL pieces not be in there? (edit - did you mean the Black Legion shoulder or my Legio shoulder?) @Showatah - Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I was on about Black Legion. Always good to hunt others who have turned from the corpse that the Imperium worship ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Yea, I put an Iron Warrior helmet in there too. I suppose there is no loyalty in the Long War :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Yea, I put an Iron Warrior helmet in there too. I suppose there is no loyalty in the Long War :) Loyalty? I'm working on an Emperor's Children. Loyalty means nothing even within your own Legion ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppotts Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 an interesting concept and well painted ,lets just hope there is not a rush to exit the left door :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 @ppotts. Thanks. if nothing else that does offer a wonderful idea for a comical diorama LoL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well the right door was missing too. I decided that if I had to fabricate one I may as well try to "fancy" it up a bit. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/41A986E9-3652-4707-81CB-6624B15631D6_zpscnfgwmcy.jpg I will hide it under some chains and skulls I suppose. Any sculptress have any tricks on achieving symmetry or does that just come with practice (if at all)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeaky Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Niiiccee! Did you do the skull yourself as well? If so thats really good, only thing i would say is make the brow sharper and the malar surface ( the bottom bit of the eye, yes i had to google what bit it was xD ) pointer a little like this http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110316070947/warhammer40k/images/1/12/Night_Lords_Livery.png maybe not to that extent but make it a bit more menaceing ? For symmetry it's a bit of practice which I need alot more of in that area myself. Try covering half of what ever you have sculpted and then see how it looks, then cover the other half and play spot the difference its just a case of reworking it till its as symmetrical as you can get it really... but hopefully someone with more knowledge and experience can give you better advise . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 @ Squeaky - I am not nearly good enough to do skulls yet. I cut that skull out of an old kit and glued it to the door. I added the wings around it with brown stuff modeling putty. I tend to fail at the left side consistently when I built just about everything. Maybe I am holding the knife wrong or something? Thanks for the advice though I will try to do the " hide a side" thing out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreal Cruelty Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 When working on things like that, I tend to turn them upside-down, or otherwise rotate them. Not the worlds greatest sculptor, but it helps with painting too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3596859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 @Surreal - I have to admit I have tried flipping things over. That's why I think I am holding the knife wrong. It's just a matter of retraining my brain I guess. I get scrambled a little when I flip things around.I added some chain and will add some to the other side as well. I will carry the trophy pile idea to the outside and have helmets and skulls and pads from the chains. I am thinking a few small piles on top. I will name her " Altar of War".http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/D1862555-5F76-4B01-915D-001ACE3038C9_zpshvw3iwui.jpgI am thinking of adding a magnet to the front armor. If I ever play again I can swap out a small trophy pile with a stack of whoever I am playing against. My little way of saying " We have come for you" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3597141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeaky Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Oh fair enough still a good job on the Viii and wings. The thing that helped me the most ways diving in the deep end and making a model from scratch, as my dad said the best way to learn is to make mistakes. With things like green stuff and brown stuff it's easy to pull or strath off if you don't like :) Anyway the chains do cover it nicely but you still get to see it aswell :) cool idea with the magnets as well you would have quite a collection of trophy piles to add up to all the possible armies mind you hehe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3597221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppotts Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 probably too late now but the symmetry doesnt look that off but once greenstuff is dry you could peel it off and restick it with superglue with the right hand side very slightly down . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3597264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Made some progress on the right side. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/B79CDC22-6D89-49D8-B0FC-5A1CBEEBBDA2_zps0vbffctz.jpg I have a whole army to build so I will for sure be using that advice in the future ppotts and Squeaky. Cut it, trim it to fit and fill the gaps with more GS. Makes perfect sense really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3597666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Started on the top trophies and art work. I really need the practice as this will make my second attempt at large freehand. The first was an Imperial eagle on a dreadnaughts leg casing. This is a practice piece so I figured "might as well", I won't improve if I don't practice and all that :) http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/07E9C770-5A32-4879-8E53-5A7695FD1A9A_zpskha6n2mc.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/EE1B1A21-103B-4884-BCD4-D79812215A49_zpsm5mfehvb.jpg As always any pointers and C&C would be welcome. Yea, I know it looks like a blind guy with three fingers painted it while he was drunk. That's why I need the practice LoL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3598880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonclaw Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Started on the top trophies and art work. I really need the practice as this will make my second attempt at large freehand. The first was an Imperial eagle on a dreadnaughts leg casing. This is a practice piece so I figured "might as well", I won't improve if I don't practice and all that http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/07E9C770-5A32-4879-8E53-5A7695FD1A9A_zpskha6n2mc.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/EE1B1A21-103B-4884-BCD4-D79812215A49_zpsm5mfehvb.jpg As always any pointers and C&C would be welcome. Yea, I know it looks like a blind guy with three fingers painted it while he was drunk. That's why I need the practice LoL daniel day lewis used just his left foot i think you made a very presentable job on the rhino top ,for the pile of skulls you could put a little light shading in places to give a more 3d element, also if you used a slightly lighter blue and ran the edge of the brush rather than the tip over some of the top edges of the rhino itself it would give a nice edge highlight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3598961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 I might be better off with a foot :) I was thinking of maybe using a small craft sponge to do the edge work when I start doing it. I have done a few lines here and there but the bulk is yet to be started. I will try the edge of the brush rather than the point, thanks for that. Shaky hands are a waste of Kolinsky brushes sometimes I swear Thanks for the input daemonclaw I may sound flippant but I do take advice to heart. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286913-random-wip/#findComment-3598982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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