Gentlemanloser Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The condition is small, but Fliers are now no longer 'musts', becuase you 'can' start on board. Much like TDA isn't a 'must'. TDA 'can' start on board (just with vastly less restrictions than Fliers - There's also the Tyrannid War Vet Dataslate, so Talons aren't 'musts' either...). Drop Pods still are though. (The way everyone would play it would of course be that any Flier that starts on board *is* counted, and others aren't. Before I get flamed/lynched!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Since you can at best have one flyer *can* the others would be must Id think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 But then we're back to 'must' with a condition. TDA *must* enter play from reserves. If you want to use it's Deep Strike ability. Does that mean we can discount all TDA? Discount all TDA we want to Deep Strike? We don't discount TDA that is entering play via Deep Strike, as that suit of TDA *can* start play on board. You've just chosen not to. Any Flier you have *can* start play on board. You've just chosen not to purchase the Skyshield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 But then we're back to 'must' with a condition. TDA *must* enter play from reserves. If you want to use it's Deep Strike ability.Any Flier you have *can* start play on board. You've just chosen not to purchase the Skyshield. Or the other way of looking at it is that if you don't have a skyshield then your flyers must start in reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's the same as saying if you want to Deep Strike your Terminators they must start in reserves. Yet we don't discount them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's the same as saying if you want to Deep Strike your Terminators they must start in reserves. Yet we don't discount them. No it's not. Terminators always have the ability to start on the board. Flyers in an army with no skyshield do not. Therefore they must start in reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 And a flier in an army with a skyshield? Or even Storm talons in general. We either stick conditions on 'must', or we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well, assuming that a player has purchased a Skyshield and paid the points for the relevant upgrade, I assume that would be because he wanted to take a flyer that was on the table first turn. As the rule only applies to one flyer and that flyer is on the table, ie not in reserve, I don't think anyone would be arguing that you would need to ignore it for the purpose of working out number of units that can be placed in reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's the same as saying if you want to Deep Strike your Terminators they must start in reserves. Yet we don't discount them. No, its not the same. If you have the option to Deepstrike A unit of terminators but MUST Deepstrike atleast all but one, the remaining TDA would fall under the 'must' clause because its something you 'must' do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.