Night Runner Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 A friend told me that I can no longer use my two contemptorsin my SW army? Something about only C:SM can use them according to the 2nd Imperial Armour book about SM vehicles? Is this true? Can someone shed some light on this for me as I don't have this book. My contemptors were never a very strategic choice, but I have fun with them. This is another GW bummer for me if it is true! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 He is full of it, SW even have their own contemptor variant. The latest ruleset is in either Imperial Armour Apoc or Aeronautica, not sure which I am sure someone else could point you in the right direction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3599232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 A friend told me that I can no longer use my two contemptorsin my SW army? Something about only C:SM can use them according to the 2nd Imperial Armour book about SM vehicles? Is this true? Can someone shed some light on this for me as I don't have this book. My contemptors were never a very strategic choice, but I have fun with them. This is another GW bummer for me if it is true! Not sure if this will help but.... Imperial Armour: Apocalypse and Imperial Armour 2, Second Edition are both current books. If you wish to field Chapter-specific Contemptor Dreadnoughts, please use the rules in Imperial Armour: Apocalypse to do so, as nothing in Imperial Armour 2, Second Edition contradicts or overides this option. via http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2014/02/the-use-of-ba-and-sw-contemptor.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3599260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Actually, the friend is half right. 2013 IA: Apoc says (paraphrased): Space Marine Contemptor Pattern Dread is only for C:SM, C:DA and SM Siege Assault Vanguard However: Space Wolves Contemptor Pattern Dread is available for C:SW. It has slightly different wargear from the standard version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3599278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteridder Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I dont have the apoclypse book, so I can't use them?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3599463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well, in the sense that you won't know the stats etc, no you won't be able to use them; but there's no restrictions on the Space Wolves as a faction having Space Wolves Contemptors; and Space Wolf players with the relevant rules using them in their armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3599501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helosv Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 · Hidden by Max_Dammit, February 24, 2014 - Stats Hidden by Max_Dammit, February 24, 2014 - Stats Hi, you can find it on the net (APO 2nd edition).... SW contemptor: page 26 ws5/bs4/s7 / 13/12/11 / i4/a4 + automantic shielding + 3 night sagas (totally different front the one of the SW codex): black cult, forsaken one, iron god... so if you don't have the rules, no way !!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3599775
Castellan Michael Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I was a little shocked to when I did not see the SW specific contempter listed that in IA2. Thank you for the link MaveriK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3599892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Thanks for the info guys. I might have to change a few arms, but at least I can still use them....and sorry for the late replay, but I was AWOL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3601539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenric Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I've also always been interested in running a Contemptor with my Wolves since I lve dreadnoughts just that the standard ones are hard to make it work with in this edition. So I guess I have to look to the apocalypse book then to get a Contemptor sw pattern. But in one of the links a fw employee mentions we can take the normal contemptor just not the mortis ones. Now I do not have the books so not sure exactly how they work. My biggest questin is does the sw pattern get skyfire? Doesn't say on the pdf that's available(if this is even the right version). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3601918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichfaust Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Wolves get the shaft when it comes to Contemptor Dreadnoughts. We don't get the Mortis version, the Night Sagas are honestly some of the most useless and uninspired rules I've ever seen from FW, we don't get cool stuff like the Graviton Gun, Plasma Blaster or Heavy Conversion Beamer, we even miss out on the ability to take two gun-arms. Do yourself a favour and avoid the chapter-specific version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3601973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenric Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Wolves get the shaft when it comes to Contemptor Dreadnoughts. We don't get the Mortis version, the Night Sagas are honestly some of the most useless and uninspired rules I've ever seen from FW, we don't get cool stuff like the Graviton Gun, Plasma Blaster or Heavy Conversion Beamer, we even miss out on the ability to take two gun-arms. Do yourself a favour and avoid the chapter-specific version. Would seem that way which sucks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3602007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Wolves get the shaft when it comes to Contemptor Dreadnoughts. We don't get the Mortis version, the Night Sagas are honestly some of the most useless and uninspired rules I've ever seen from FW, we don't get cool stuff like the Graviton Gun, Plasma Blaster or Heavy Conversion Beamer, we even miss out on the ability to take two gun-arms. Do yourself a favour and avoid the chapter-specific version. Yep, I had one with the graviton gun and another with a swap of several including the plasma balster! A pity really, they should have left these models available to all chapters like the rest of the vehicles imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287080-no-contemptors/#findComment-3602561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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