rcooper890 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hello fello Wolf brothers. Just curious if any of you have heard any rumors or have any perspective on what type, if any, of flyer space wolves will get with their new Codex (whenever that will be). I would love to have a table ready storm raven/talon ready to go for them, but I don't want to jump the gun. Let me know what you think! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichfaust Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I feel like if we were going to get the Storm Raven or Talon we would have had it FAQ'd or errata'd by now. They're probably waiting for the codex update to drop a new 'unique' kit in the same vein as the Dark Angels flyers. Were it up to me, it would be at least Raven sized if not bigger, with options to go transport mode or fully-loaded gunship. Personally I have a Storm Eagle for my Wolves, and it hasn't failed me yet--nor have I had any bad apple opponents who have refused to let me field it. So that could be something to consider while you wait. And whatever happens with our eventual flyer, let's all just face the fact that it's going to be called the Storm Wolf or the Storm Fang or something and come to peace with it now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3601969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Olaf Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Yup, i agree. I have a Storm Raven as the personal ride of my Wolf Lord Engir Krakendoom. I think he stole it from an Inquisitor who pissed him off.. I call the missiles "Wolfstrike missiles".. Will be interesting to see how GW is going to wolf up a flyer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Well just going by things already mentioned in Black Library material we still have yet to see Dropfalcon or Hawkwing Gunships and the Battle of the Fang mentioned Skarr Gunships. Maybe one of those, or some weird new thing that's supposedly thousands of years old as has been the case these days... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Just a relates side note, I was in my local gw store a month or 2 ago and mentioned allying guard to get some play time with flyers, the gw guy there responded that come new sw codex we would have a flyer of our own. Not exactly an official statement, but at least gw employees are expecting a wolf flyer one day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cate Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 When it comes to rumours I rather listen to a chimp than a GW store employee as the chimps sources are probably more correct. This far I have heard rumours about Stormravens, special SW flyer (everything from some sort of conventional plane like thingy to flying dragon viking ships similar to the necron flying barge thingy and flying chariots pulled by space goats), and last but not least that we are still going to be forced to ally in some fliers from another army. At the moment I couldn't care less about fliers as the only one using on in my local meta is an ork player and he can't hit anything with that thing. If SW gets a flier I will probably get one, if it something similar to the other chapters fliers, if we get something ripped out from pop culture viking myths, i'll probably stop with SW and start up a 30k army instead or concentrate on my Skaven instead. I like my Wolves feral, but the viking werewolf thing have already gone a bit to far. /C Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 This far I have heard rumours about Stormravens, special SW flyer (everything from some sort of conventional plane like thingy to flying dragon viking ships similar to the necron flying barge thingy and flying chariots pulled by space goats thunderwolf catapult with skyfire? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cate Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 This far I have heard rumours about Stormravens, special SW flyer (everything from some sort of conventional plane like thingy to flying dragon viking ships similar to the necron flying barge thingy and flying chariots pulled by space goats thunderwolf catapult with skyfire? *gouges out eyes to erase vision* :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasclomalum Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No need to poke fun at the over-the-topness of Space Wolves and the redundant usage of the word "wolf" everywhere gents. I am sure that GW will make a sound design decision when it comes to the Space Wolf flyer. Seriously, who believes that there will be Wolfstrike Missiles and Thunderwolf catapults? Come on. No, they'll just give Thunderwolf Cavalry a pegasus wings option and be done with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjdudey Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No, they'll just give Thunderwolf Cavalry a pegasus wings option and be done with it. I LOVE THIS IDEA LOLOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No this is 40k, they'll give Thunderwolves the option of strapping rockets and anti-grav plates to the saddle and if a model is removed as a cassualty form a dangerous terrain test it explodes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3602953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No this is 40k, they'll give Thunderwolves the option of strapping rockets and anti-grav plates to the saddle and if a model is removed as a cassualty form a dangerous terrain test it explodes! and spawn D6+1 wolves. I just hope we get something FW, as the stores are merging it wouldnt be to hard to put it in a book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rose Princes Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No, they'll just give Thunderwolf Cavalry a pegasus wings option and be done with it. Unit of 5 Flying Monsterous Creatures..... take that, Tyranids! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'm telling ya', it's going to be the "Airwolf". Mark my words.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No because then they'd have to deal with copyright from that TV show... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcooper890 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 If for some reason we don't get the storm raven I think something along the lines of "sky wolf" sounds plausible. You all know as well as I do it will have some kind of Wolfy name but I mean come on, we play space wolves. Accept it. Love it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rommel44 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Sorry in advance for a noob question as I haven't played in awhile lol but cant we now take flyers thanks to the Death From The Skies book or did the Space Wolves not get an option in that one as well? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 We did not, we got ace pilot skills but we did not actually get the option to field a Stormraven Gunship. Dark Angels, Black Templars and Space Marines got the option, Space Wolves did not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcooper890 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Two things are very plausible in my mind. 1: GW had intentionally not give SW the storm raven or talon because they will mimic Dark Angels and get a specific flyer of their own. If this is the case, I hope to hell it's better than the Jetfighter the dark angels did get. For 180 points that thing is way under powered or way overpriced. 2. GW just forgot about space wolves for the time being and we will get the storm raven or talon with the new codex. While this is the more unlikely of the two, it wouldn't surprise me at the slightest. For the time being, my solution the flyer issue was to paint a storm talon with the space wolf scheme and to ally with space marines but call them all space wolves. So I pay for whatever I want out of the space marine codex and call them space wolves. So basically I ally with myself but pay for it as if I was allying with SM. Easy fix. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yea I take a Blood Angels ally contingent for the same reason, gives me a Stormraven Gunship and I use Death Company as Wulfen. Allying with the Space Marine Codex gives us the Stormtalon and Stormraven, as well as stuff like the Hunter and Centurions, Thunderfire Cannons and Masters of the Forge with Conversion Beamers, BS 4 bikers, Troops bikers, Attack Bike Squadrons and so on and so forth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 In all seriousness, though, it really does make you wonder what they've got in mind for us. With every other 40k army choice getting some flyer love this edition, I was frankly surprised that were weren't included in Death from the Skies, or otherwise Errata'd into the air domain. Here's to hoping that we get a few things in an upcoming 6e codex that are effective, balanced, correctly priced, thematically appropriate (i.e. "cool"). I, for one, have been an advocate of Space Marines of all types getting access to a wider variety of air and space-capable craft for over a decade (I even wrote an essay about in my now defunct B&C blog). However, I'm crossing my fingers that it is implemented appropriately and that the model and rules designers do not disappoint. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I could give a good god damn about a flyer. But if we get one, we'd better get deep striking terminators as well!! Or by Russ himself, I'm going to nerd rage this table onto it's top!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I could give a good god damn about a flyer. But if we get one, we'd better get deep striking terminators as well!! Or by Russ himself, I'm going to nerd rage this table onto it's top!! End of Line Wait, why? Those other Space Marine forces, that can Teleport their Terminators, don't get access to Drop Pods for them. Drop Pod deployment is considerably better in that it 1) almost guarantees a safe deployment, 2) allows a First Turn deployment for half rounding up (not possible for those Teleporting), 3) allows an additional "free" movement upon landing, and 4) puts an annoying line of sight disrupting model with a Storm Bolter in/near the enemy deployment zone. I would much, much, rather keep our Wolf Guard Terminator's access to Drop Pods at the small sacrifice of the ability to Teleport. Why on Terra would you want to nerd-rage about something like that? V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Damn you and your logic Val!! But I was mostly making the joke in the way that we cant teleport, so why do we get flyers??!! Two feet on the ground, blah-blah-blah and all that jazz... End of Nerd Rage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Space Wolves have flyers the same way we have Skyclaws and Wolf Scouts, there are those who do not fit in with the normal warrior brotherhood or combat style of the chapter. Such as the Skyclaws proclivity for rocketing through the air with Jump Packs and Wolf Scouts dismissal of the standard loud, raucous and reckless tactics of the majority of the chapter for stealth and infiltration. Similarly we have tank crews, Iron Priests and most certainly pilots who, for whatever reason, prefer their chosen method of war over the bolter or the chainsword. Doesn't mean the rest of the chapter is suddenly going to embrace teleportation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287199-fenrisian-flyers/#findComment-3603822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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