Memento Of Prospero Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Evening brothers! After a fruitful weekend of debauchery and excessive trading, I came back home with several vintage models, including a NIB, still shrink wrapped MK1 Baal Predator. I had an argument with a friend as to the value of such an item, and am looking for thoughts on this. How would you rate the value of such an item? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Priceless. It's a Mk I. If you're gonna put a price on it, then it's up for grabs. In which case, you better drop me a PM first. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3602857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yeah, I'd say that is pretty damn impressive, and very hard to put a price sticker to. I'd hold onto that. Oh, and pics please! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3602874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yeah, I'd say that is pretty damn impressive, and very hard to put a price sticker to. I'd hold onto that. Oh, and pics please! As soon as I get home ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3602878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'd put it about the same price as a current Baal Predator, all sealed. At equal price, I'd rather have the newer model. Both opened and on ebay, I'd pay more for the new one. The actual model isn't as nice as the conversion in the 3rd ed codex, and doesn't come with heavy bolter sponsons, IIRC. You do get a sweet MkI BA icon front plate, though. With that in mind, I wouldn't put it up for sale (auction) unless you get a very convincing offer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Didn't think they would be that special ? I have one made up and would have really liked rid of it. With the new one out and best fielded in multiples, it's not very visually aesthetic to mix them as a personal opinion. However, having said that, if you already own the older type and in need of another, and want it unmade, then it becomes a very different story. It is always about the interest of the buyer, and if you are lucky to get two that are interested in it - then let them have at it! Either way, it theoretically should be worth at least the value of an existing rhino up to and including the value of the existing (new) Baal, and more or less value depending on the buyers at the time of selling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 As requested: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It would probably look badass if you swapped the top plates around so the turret is more rear-mounted, like the current baal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fury Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Somebody building a 30k legion may pay a little more for that relic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 It would probably look badass if you swapped the top plates around so the turret is more rear-mounted, like the current baal. I've got one built and the way the plates work, this isn't really possible. The top plate comes in two pieces, one that fits over the open back hatch and one that adds the turret to the front. You'd have to do a lot of work to get the two pieces to reverse on you. Also the main body comes in two identical pieces that go together albeit not in a seamless manner. The old kits were kind of difficult to work with really and required a bit of glue to get them together. Woe betide anyone who didn't have the damn thing straight when the glue set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Gorgeous Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That is glorious, brother! And cheers for the picture. May that Baal serve you well ín the name of the Emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 It might end up serving someone else, I've already got one stripping down as we speak ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 As long as said service is done in the name of the Emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3603827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorneeq Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm loving oldschool models and in my army You can see just MK1 chassis rhinos, razors, baals and vindi... For me they are worth as much as new models. Need to grab the old las-plas turret... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3604139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 It would probably look badass if you swapped the top plates around so the turret is more rear-mounted, like the current baal. I've got one built and the way the plates work, this isn't really possible. The top plate comes in two pieces, one that fits over the open back hatch and one that adds the turret to the front. You'd have to do a lot of work to get the two pieces to reverse on you. Also the main body comes in two identical pieces that go together albeit not in a seamless manner. The old kits were kind of difficult to work with really and required a bit of glue to get them together. Woe betide anyone who didn't have the damn thing straight when the glue set. You can put the turret ring plate at the back over the square door hatches and then use the normal rhino circular hatches on the circular holes. I never had any problems with my MkI rhino and pred, the two L-shaped hull pieces went together fine! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3604359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 You can put the turret ring plate at the back over the square door hatches and then use the normal rhino circular hatches on the circular holes. I never had any problems with my MkI rhino and pred, the two L-shaped hull pieces went together fine! The hull plates were terrible when I built it. But then that was a long time ago. It's been awhile since I even put one together but I thought the metal "rear" plate had little nubbies that fit inside the rear hatch opening on the old kit? Will have to find some pictures of what the hull pieces looked like. Got its been 15 years for me since I last put one together. Edit: Found this picture: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MYsIuqeU2Ic/TUPYP2LUg0I/AAAAAAAAAWU/j5GTLSVerZc/s1600/baalpredator.jpg You'd have to trim the plastic nubs on the rear hatch area and then possibly file down the back metal plate so it's flushed against the tapered edged on the front. Doable and pretty simple conversion. Still remember it being a pain getting the two L-shaped hull pieces to line up the way I wanted them to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3604721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonedog Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Wow, that takes an oldster like me back......back to when I drooled (maybe literally) over this model, but alas did not have to funds to procure one! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3604793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Nice find! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287234-mk1-baal-predator/#findComment-3607115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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