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Imperial knights and space marines?


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I don't see why that would be an issue, Freeblades are no longer part of a Knight House and there is no reason why they wouldn't occasionally tag along with a Chapter, especially if said Chapter is on an active Crusade or something. I think the line would be if you tried to say the Knight was part of the Chapter, but you aren't saying that.

 

Much bigger http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3810205a_99120108003_IKTerrynPaladinScale_445x319.jpg Anything bigger would be a Titan, it doesn't appear to be much smaller than a Warhound Titan.

Sounds great to me. That particular picture I posted is of House Terryn, whom just so happens to coincidentally have a color scheme resembling the Ultramarines rolleyes.gif , and if you look on the banner hanging at the bottom, you can see various Campaign Badges, which the style of those in particular were typically Space Marine Campaigns, as shown in the Space Marine Codex (but it does say Imperial, I just haven't seen any IG bearing that style of a badge). So I see no fluff to go against you, I can only say post pics...though I realize it will be a little longer.

That's totally feasible. 

 

I think GW specifically included the whole bit about "free blades" for hobbyists like us to take it and run with it. Like a built in "excuse" to explain why an Imperial Knight is working with their forces (and to buy more Knight models, I'm sure ^_^ ).

I was actually thinking of adding 2 of these guys, in to my Salamanders army. Painting them up with Salamanders colors and styles. Make them from the Sanctuary City of Hesiod which is the City of nobles and the like. And use the drakes head as part of the scheme. I remember in the book Armageddon that one of the IG air regiments were allowed to paint the Templar cross on their fighters because they got permission from Helbrecht. So I was going to copy the idea,

I think it'll be a great addition to a SM army - especially as a usually monochromatic force will be livened up by the coulorful giants... In fact I'd go to great lengths to make them as distinct as possible...

 

I really like the fact that they are a disitnct fighting force in the Imperium and not a part of the Mechanicum or the Imperial Guard (although they may maintain strong alliences with either.

What I enjoy most about the Knights is their regal, noble look, as if each war machine belongs to a king, and also how I can see them being the Imperium's answer to Monsterous Creatures, like the kind of unit that would melt through a Land Raider with one hand while beheading a Swarmlord with the other.

Also, I like how they seem very cinematic ( for lack of a better word) like the kind of thing who's pilot would do the whole "I'll buy you some time" line, and charges into a thousand genestealers or something.

Well from what I can piece together, Knight society works like a medieval fiefdom, correct? Just replace metal armor with a MUI and a horse with a giant lumbering death mech.

 

So yeah, owned by a king isn't too far off. Seems like there are thousands of "peasants" toiling away on these Knight planets to raise maybe half a dozen Imperial Knights for the lords that rule over them.

 

Seems a tad silly to charge into 1000 genestealers if you've got a perfectly good melta cannon though :P

There's also always the possibility, depending on the time period you're aiming for, to build a house that no longer exists in the 41st millenium. If the Mechanicus have had Titan Collegiates founded and exterminated over the millenia, then so can the Knights. The ones we see in the Codex may simply be the most influencial.

 

On my end of the 30k spectrum, I'll be making a Homebrew House that was exterminated during the Scouring. Old Night was hellish for everyone to stay in contact (or even stay alive), so I'm playing with the idea that the recruiting world that my Iron Warriors liberated from a Kine Horde that was close to enslaving the planet was also the home of a Household that had been cut off for centuries, and had developed their own customs and culture in line with their planet, eventually becoming a House Minoris on their own. With my Dragoons preserving the planet at the 11th hour, oaths of honour and brotherhood, bonded through blood spilled, were shared. With the planet becoming a Ward-World and recruitment site of the Dragoons, the knights become a part of the XIV Dragoons in all but name.

 

As for colors, I'm running the idea of a halved scheme for my House of Alloni, forest green and cream, trimmed in dark iron. Their heraldic symbol will be a human face with a grated mouth, haloed by a cog, lightning striking from the face.

For me one of the biggest problems of 40k is that the game itself has always been a poor representation of Imperial forces at work. Crusades used to be portrayed as a huge mix of marine chapters, guard, Ecclesiarchy, Inquisition, admech, etc, but in the past the codexes have always been leaning towards "this race/army only" in them.

 

Its something that has for the most part been sadly lacking from the army lists up until recently with the establishing of the allies rules and to be honest has sucked so much character from the game up until the point where we are now.

 

Inclusion of the Imperial Knights is a great step forward and something I have quite literally been waiting decades for.

 

As for chapters having strong ties with knightly house holds I honestly can't see why they wouldn't. It's already been established that some have strong ties with the ad-mech or Inquisition so it wouldn't be a massive leap to think that the same could be said of knights or even guard regiments.

It could well be that their world lies in the jurisdiction of a marine chapter or that the two forces have ties dating back millennia.  

 

The structure of the Space Marine mini empires shares a lot of the characteristics of a feudal society in many cases and this is something I can see mirrored in the knight households. I could even see a lone Freeblade being considered part of the marine serf forces in some cases. 

 

40k is a BIG universe, anything for the most part is possible.

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