Rasp Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 If you want to use a units AoF & War Hymn in the same assault phase, is it one leadership test or two? Thanks, Rasp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 One for the squad using the AoF and one for the preacher for his War Hymn is what I would think to be correct. Just remember that since the preacher is part of a squad, he can use the squad's highest average Ld for his test. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3607929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 the squad's highest leadership, period. No averages neeed :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3607997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I stand corrected :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I don't think 40k has ever used an average for anything, not even in the "roll to see if your model wonders what is for dinner" days of yore! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Well average as in most common value like you do for Toughness on to wound rolls. Characteristic tests are highest value. And it is two rolls. One for each. For what it's worth, if you have more than one priest, you can retest the same battle hymn if the first one failed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 That's not an average, that's a majority With a name like Fibonacci surely mathematics should be your strong suit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 That's not an average, that's a majority With a name like Fibonacci surely mathematics should be your strong suit? Well, you're called WarriorFish and yet you're not even in the Navy :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 That's not an average, that's a majority With a name like Fibonacci surely mathematics should be your strong suit? Well, you're called WarriorFish and yet you're not even in the Navy :P But he might be a fish... Consider litanies of faith upgrade for your priest if you're running several acts of faith/war hymns in a squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 0,1,1,2,3,5,8 ;) I never was much into set theory. Dif-E and linear algebra were more my focus because they related to programming which is what I was most interested in way back then. Anyway, I was just saying I understood what Ludovic meant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Anyway, I was just saying I understood what Ludovic meant. I'm not alone! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 The sea is in my blood, I don't need to be on it to be connected to it - if I get too far inland I get antsy I agree with Naminé, Litanies of Faith might not be as fun as the old days but it's worth considering for trick squads. Don't worry Fib I was just joking, and perhaps still a little too early into my sugar reduction regime Mother always said I was sweet enough, I guess I should have listened to her... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 The sea is in my blood, I don't need to be on it to be connected to it - if I get too far inland I get antsy I agree with Naminé, Litanies of Faith might not be as fun as the old days but it's worth considering for trick squads. Don't worry Fib I was just joking, and perhaps still a little too early into my sugar reduction regime Mother always said I was sweet enough, I guess I should have listened to her... You have water in your blood!? How are you alive?! Well average as in most common value like you do for Toughness on to wound rolls. Characteristic tests are highest value. And it is two rolls. One for each. For what it's worth, if you have more than one priest, you can retest the same battle hymn if the first one failed. Modal average. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3608446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfben Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Also, if I may 'wade' in here (pun completely intended) there are a number of different types of averaging methods not just the 'mean', which would be what warriorfish is referring too. Perhaps Fibonacci was referring to the 'mode' average, which would indeed be the most common number in a range of numbers. Therefore, Fibonacci would be technically correct (the best kind of correct! ) in calling it the average (albeit he should have made which average he was referring too clear to begin with). Glad I could help EDIT: Curse you Furyou Miko! I didn't read your post! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3609226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Curse you Furyou Miko! I didn't read your post! True, but at least you explained it eloquently for the less mathmatically inclined/more lazy of us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3609528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Curse you Furyou Miko! I didn't read your post! True, but at least you explained it eloquently for the less mathmatically inclined/more lazy of us. Yes, he did do that ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3609910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfben Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I can't help it, I'm a Dr of evolutionary biology, stats is an unfortunate constant in my life :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3610592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I can't help it, I'm a Dr of evolutionary biology, stats is an unfortunate constant in my life :p Sounds a little like the makings of a genestealer cult to me! You should probably roast some xenos vermin to ensure such practices do not devolve into heresy! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3610662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfben Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I can't help it, I'm a Dr of evolutionary biology, stats is an unfortunate constant in my life Sounds a little like the makings of a genestealer cult to me! You should probably roast some xenos vermin to ensure such practices do not devolve into heresy! Good idea Namine, I see your from Leicestershire, I'm at Leicester University, perhaps you could help me :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3610711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geitmeise Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 So I might have been playing this wrong all the time! Can the priest acutally use someone elses leadership when attempting to use a war hymn? Also, can a unit use a Cannness leadership when attempting their own act of faith? Tthe examples above are of course assuming the independent characters have joined a unit of sisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3611786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasp Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Yes. Always use the highest leadership in the unit unless specifically directed not too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3611791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geitmeise Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 This changes everything, thanks :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3611793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 To be fair the codex could have been a lot clearer on that point. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3611819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasp Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Agreed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3611863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreaper84 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ok heres a buger that i have been trying to hash out.... Lets say my canoness escort (her command squad and a priest or 3) get into combat. The first turn they are granted rerolls from hatred due to the priests zealot. In subsequent combat phases can the canoness use an act of faith to give hatred to the squad and again prompt some rerolls? Sorry if its of topic but it DOES involve leadership tests (unless there is the litnies) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287500-acts-of-faith-war-hymns-leadership-tests/#findComment-3612022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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