Urauloth Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I hope the havoc weapons aren't just giant phallic guns with pipes and daemon faces all over them. That's a definite possibility; they might not exist at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar'kir Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I really hope the Havoc/ Chosen kit is legit. If not it would be a huge kick in the gut to Choas player every where... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Why do you sound like that would be a surprise? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayniac Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I really hope the Havoc/ Chosen kit is legit. If not it would be a huge kick in the gut to Choas player every where... Ssssh, they can hear you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I am pretty reconciled to the idea that the Helbrute was a one off. I like surprises! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Just give me more than one Autocannon with the Havocs. But with luck as it is, we'll get 2 Missile Launchers, 2 Heavy Bolters, a LasCannon, another Plasma Pistol and no AutoCannon - lol! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 It's quite easy to convert autocannons out of heavy bolters though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Why do you sound like that would be a surprise? Because some of us still have hope that maybe GW will finally do something good for Chaos? It's a forlorn hope, given the track record. -Tarvik Hope is the first step down the road of disappointment. I really hope the havoc/chosen is true, but sadly I already have a truck bed of salt beside me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Why do you sound like that would be a surprise? Because some of us still have hope that maybe GW will finally do something good for Chaos? It's a forlorn hope, given the track record. -Tarvik Hope is the first step down the road of disappointment. I really hope the havoc/chosen is true, but sadly I already have a truck for of salt beside me. Especially with the picture of an IG release in a WDW popping up now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3614948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith’ari Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Yeah but, the new IG stuff (ubertruck/stormies) does'nt go up for preorder until the 29th. So even if the dex & other bits go on sale the week before, that still leaves us with a couple of free weeks. Here's hoping for some more Chaos stuff! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3615589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 There's one open week, and I find it hard to believe that there's no release planned - it would, I think, be the first week without a meaningful physical release from GW since the new weekly business started? At the same time, I have a hard time believing its anything significant, if we're getting leaks for the following week's models first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3615666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Shows they are just humans at GW and not machines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3615673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 so it looks like the IG codex is next week and teh Storm troopers is on the 29th Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3615925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebris Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 New plastic, i am in dire need for new plastic. I managed the nigh impossible, of all the chaos models only 4 spawn, abby, 3 oblits , cypher , 1 squad of sons and 1 new squad of marines remain together with the three sorcerers, everything else went on auction and was sold with great success. So i am ready for the new looks and schemes as they come. I have one of each new kits and i am eagerly waiting for some chosen and havocs to bulk my army. Hell i have even bought the how to paint alpha legion ibook and the colors to do so... so all i need is new plastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3616817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well, the news is in from those who have seen the next White Dwarf, and it is bad. No new models for pre-order in next weeks white dwarf (only physical product on show is the APO damocles warzone book; apart from that just an APO formation for imperial knights and a C:Daemons dataslate for an exalted flamer w/o charriot). No new Chosen, no new Havoks, just a dead week, model-wise. We know the following several weeks are IG stuff, after which new fantasy stuff is expected, so if more new chaos models are in the works at all, we probably won't be seeing them for several months at the earliest.Since the Alpha Legion have, as far as I know, nothing to do with the Imperium/Tau Damocles conflict, nor the exalted flamer chaos daemons dataslate, nor the Imperial Knight apocalypse formation, I have no idea what the 'next issue: I am Alpharius' note was supposed to be from the current issue, other than simply trolling us? (no, I don't actually think they were trolling us, just saying I don't get what the point of that was?)---------------------for 30k fans, pics have hit the internet of FW's Horus model. If you haven't seen it, it looks very nice. If I played 30k, or preferred a less-chaotic aesthetic for my 40k chaos marines, I would totally get it. As it is... oh, well. Even if it's not for me, I have to say that's one damn fine model. Almost makes me wish I did play 30k. Almost. But not really.----------------------I have to say, this has been a very disappointing mini-wave for me, especially hot on the heels of the Imperial Knight "yes you can use it! Oh, wait no you can't!" fiasco. Without new rules, I simply cannot justify spending that much money on the helbrute model, no matter how much I may like it, and while I approve of the way the crimson slaughter are characterized in their new supplement (putting the chaos back in chaos marines), it's frustrating to me that a recent renegade warband gets the full chaos treatment while heresy vets are left largely as 'regular marines but with spikey armor' in the fluff, and regardless I cannot justify the high price of these supplements (full codex cost!) for a faction I don't actually play.So the whole release is wasted on me, when I was all geared up, and had actually saved up the money, to dump two to three hundred bucks on some combination of knights and new plastic chaos infantry, whether they took the form of havocs, chosen, basic CSMs, whatever - so long as it brought the models more in line with the codex artwork or DV models.Oh well. It's not like there isn't other stuff to spend that money on. I've heard good things about the new South Park game, and could use a new pair of shoes. Oh, and there's some homestuck merch I'd like to grab - the Act 3 book is out, maybe a squiddle shirt or GT hoodie? ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3618971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveNYC Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well, the news is in from those who have seen the next White Dwarf, and it is bad. No new models for pre-order in next weeks white dwarf (only physical product on show is the APO damocles warzone book; apart from that just an APO formation for imperial knights and a C:Daemons dataslate for an exalted flamer w/o charriot). No new Chosen, no new Havoks, just a dead week, model-wise. We know the following several weeks are IG stuff, after which new fantasy stuff is expected, so if more new chaos models are in the works at all, we probably won't be seeing them for several months at the earliest. Wait, their solution to the Exalted Flamer chariot (you know, the guy who is useless because he's rocking a heavy weapon in a paper armored vehicle, so good luck ever firing that weapon) is not to FAQ the unit for the Daemon codex, but instead to charge for a dataslate that takes him him out of the chariot? GW better stock up on electrons, because that's going to sell like hot cakes. At least our box art is up to date, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 It isn't about fixing the chariot. This in no way acknowledges that there is a problem with the chariot to begin with. This is about giving players who built the chariot with a herald a way to use the left over flamer model on its own. Basically, if you build the flamer chariot, you're left with a playable herald on foot, and now if you build the herald chariot, you're left with a playable exalted flamer on foot, as something distinct from simply another model in a flamer squad. I expect it to be every bit as worthless as the flamer chariot, since it's still going to be rocking a rather short ranged heavy weapon on a rather vulnerable body. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveNYC Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It isn't about fixing the chariot. This in no way acknowledges that there is a problem with the chariot to begin with. This is about giving players who built the chariot with a herald a way to use the left over flamer model on its own. Basically, if you build the flamer chariot, you're left with a playable herald on foot, and now if you build the herald chariot, you're left with a playable exalted flamer on foot, as something distinct from simply another model in a flamer squad. I expect it to be every bit as worthless as the flamer chariot, since it's still going to be rocking a rather short ranged heavy weapon on a rather vulnerable body. Might not be quite as worthless, you at least get the ability to stick him in with some meat shields or something. Which then have to slog it into range, then stand there a turn before he can fire, and probably get charged first. OK, 'every bit as worthless' would seem to be accurate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebris Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well I still have the kit to assemble so it would be interesting to see this dataslate before I jump on assembling it. I think that since I like the herald I will field both him and the flamer on foot with a chariot assembled if I ever want to place them upon it. I already have a plan for the blue horrors, which entails fielding them as reinforcements from the portalgyph. One thing I have a grudge with GW, the Tzeentch daemons are perhaps the nicest and the most fluffy when comes to looks and I am sorely disappointed that Tzeentch got its custom treatment in both codexes, marines and daemon, which makes for a subpar option unless you spam screamers and divination. As for the new chaos kits, well until new chaos marines will be released I will field 2x Thousand Sons MSU instead of 20 tacticals... at least those are still the best looking cult troops of the bunch. I must say that once assembled the rest of my army I think that the Alpha Legion scheme as per guide will have a nice look to it, there is something vibrant in that purple and green as well as a great chance to practice some freehand with scales of any types. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 "I'm alpharius" eh?...Hmm. Well I hope it's something. I probably like the Alpha Legion most. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Too bad, chosen are one of the units that could have compelled me to spend some money over the next couple months (A proper cultist kit or new CSM being the others). I will likely get a helbrute at some point, although a FW Black Legion dread is higher on my list. In the meantime I'll keep painting and building what I've got. Wonder what the Alpha Legion have coming up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayniac Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Too bad, chosen are one of the units that could have compelled me to spend some money over the next couple months (A proper cultist kit or new CSM being the others). I will likely get a helbrute at some point, although a FW Black Legion dread is higher on my list. In the meantime I'll keep painting and building what I've got. Wonder what the Alpha Legion have coming up? Not confirmed but supposedly there's a painting guide to an Alpha Legion Helbrute in the upcoming White Dwarf Weekly, which looks to be what the "I'm Alpharius" reference is, and nothing actually worthwhile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Too bad, Alpha Legion are an old favorite of mine and some kind of cool articles/guides would be nice (wouldn't even have to be accompanied by a model release). Still, from the perspective of having some cool stuff in the new White Dwarf maybe it won't be so bad. The more painting/building stuff and fewer ads the better.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Eh, if the painting guide is decent, if might not be worthless. Alpha legion is one of those color schemes that seems completely different every time its done, and sometimes that results in something really intersting -subtle blending, that sort of thing. I don't know. Still super disappointed to not see those chosen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clewz Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Could the Alpharius thing be in reference to the next HH book? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/3/#findComment-3619638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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