daboarder Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 jeske, they cant do that anymore mate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 jeske, they cant do that anymore mate But SoK said he is given in to the illusion and that he wants to smash . Can't have a fluffy khorn brute without going rage on everything in front of him . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I personnaly prefere the Dedication rules from FW then simply a Mark with +1 in a stat. A Dread with Rage+Rampage? yes please!( would be better on a mauler but hey...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 No new chosen/havocs means it's back to chopping up the DV dudes for me....didn't get my hopes up to high anyways..... I don't mind the Hellbrutes, I just dislike the heads -I suppose they are to scale but I just look weird to my eye (not in a good way) I prefer the FW style helms so prob stick with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 jeske, they cant do that anymore mate But SoK said he is given in to the illusion and that he wants to smash . Can't have a fluffy khorn brute without going rage on everything in front of him . Frankly if it was the old crazed, like 3.5? Sure. :D Thats why they would lead from the front and just run, slam into something, and go all choppy. Really hope we find out what this is soon... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm pretty sure the jeske is being sarcastic. He is making fun of GW's idea that Chaos "requires" terrible random rules to be "Chaotic" as per GW's current design philosophy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayniac Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm pretty sure the jeske is being sarcastic. He is making fun of GW's idea that Chaos "requires" terrible random rules to be "Chaotic" as per GW's current design philosophy. But it worked so great in Rogue Trader... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minionboy Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I personnaly prefere the Dedication rules from FW then simply a Mark with +1 in a stat. A Dread with Rage+Rampage? yes please!( would be better on a mauler but hey...) Eh, even if they brought those in, they're mostly over priced. yes Rage/Rampage is fun, but it's 20 points. IWND for 20 points is similarly expensive on a model that's probably going to die in a single round. Slaanesh for grenades... for 15 points? No thanks, and Tzeentch... LOL. Soulblaze flamers and maybe re-roll to hits of 1... That's just garbage and expensive to boot! If they just bring them over from the contemptor/decimator, that would be awful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 You misunderstand. I am suggesting 100 points base, with MM + IWND, Daemon, Daemonforge, and then marks on top of that. 120 points for a IWND, Daemon, Daemonforge, Rage/Rampage walker? I'd run that for laughs without a doubt. EDIT: A wraithknight would still kick them like a point after attempt, but at least krak's could be saved against, and the unit would be splattered in response. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 word is its a regulard multiple dataslate, but theres still no word oon numbers or bonuses, so it wouldnt have taken a genius to make that up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 My guess is that it will only be a formation. Charge 10 USD and have a bit of extra fluff. My guess: no additional rules or change to the existing rules. But i am pessimistic regarding chaos releases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 via an anonymous reader from the Faeit 212 inboxHere is Dataslate Helbrutes-Delves into the history of the Chaos Space Marine HelbrutesIncludes fameous examplesAdditional rules for fielding multiple Helbrutes as a formation Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The key is, what are those rules. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3620966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 No new chosen/havocs means it's back to chopping up the DV dudes for me....didn't get my hopes up to high anyways..... Is this confirmed? The rumour's definitely dead? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 seems so yeah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 At least for the coming weeks. There's still a slight hope, as the Havocs haven't been repacked yet, but the next weeks are already crammed with other releases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I was really hoping for Chosen to use as CSM. :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I was really hoping for Chosen to use as CSM. :/ And you weren't alone... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lootzer Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Maybe it was somewhere here already but:http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/2014-03-13%2010.16.14.png Teleporting Hellbrutes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Maybe it was somewhere here already but: http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/2014-03-13%2010.16.14.png Teleporting Hellbrutes? At least they're honest that it'll most likely be a suicide formation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lootzer Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Still - depending on the teleport rule might be considered as an alternative to drop pod... maybe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/2014-03-13%2010.16.20.png Another one. This actually sounds hilarious. Would be fluffy for armies like WB to have a horde of cultists worshipping one of their Helbrutes as an avatar of the gods as it wanders around and occasionally steps on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Still - depending on the teleport rule might be considered as an alternative to drop pod... maybe No disagreement there. Although IIRC, we still have no homing beacons, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lootzer Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/2014-03-13%2010.16.20.png Another one. This actually sounds hilarious. Would be fluffy for armies like WB to have a horde of cultists worshipping one of their Helbrutes as an avatar of the gods as it wanders around and occasionally steps on them. This might be kinda funny depending on the rules too. For ex. getting fearless for the Cultists as long as the Hellbrute is "alive" (and taking 50 of them). OFC the Brute would need to gain some cover rule from the wimps or smth. similar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm guessing that's exactly what it will be. It makes them fearless and they give it a cover save with the tradeoff that it has a chance to fire frenzy them, or perhaps if GW doesn't feel like being s about it it might kill them some other way that doesn't at least preclude it from firing at enemies. But there will definitely be a rule for it attacking them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287614-more-new-model-rumors/page/5/#findComment-3621839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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