Zyth23 Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 imo, the quickest way to go from Black Legion to Black Templar= White. Even by just painting the helmet white, you'd go away from the BL image immediately. Besides that, Iconography. Using some Imperial/Templar symbols and icons does the same job really.I'll try it, if it's still not enought Templary, I'll convert it into an Astral Claws Knight. (Silver, with Gold Borders and Blue Shoulderpads) I've ordered 2 more Knight at my Localstore ^^' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3619953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 And suddenly I saw a vision of a Celestial Lion Knight. But those Astral Claws, aren't they call Red Corsairs now? So, that's a tad heretical isn't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3620205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 And suddenly I saw a vision of a Celestial Lion Knight. But those Astral Claws, aren't they call Red Corsairs now? So, that's a tad heretical isn't it? Astral Claws, Before Turned Red Corsairs. (I like the army style, Marines + Guards) And also the fluff is funny. *I also play Necrons, and I'm planning to begin assembling a Thousand Sons Army to play against a GK friend's army* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3623401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Vanguards and Chaplain with Jetpack pic added. (Check First Post) Vanguards - Teutonic Knights Conversion [WIP] firs pic added. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3623523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Hmmm... Those Teutonic Knights look cool, but umm... You might wanna remove those Chaos icons from those shields. Those horns might be risky, but that could be solved by a decent paintjob. I'm kinda curious now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3623558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Hmmm... Those Teutonic Knights look cool, but umm... You might wanna remove those Chaos icons from those shields. Those horns might be risky, but that could be solved by a decent paintjob. I'm kinda curious now! What chaos icon on shields? XD I already removed them, and I'll paint epic big Templars Cross on them. For the Horns, I tryied to find better helmets, and I didn't found. I'll paint them with alternance of white and black. The tabars will be whites, with Black Cross, and armor black. I'll use Blood Angels Command Squad Jetpacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3623566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Bretonnian Knights Errant - for your helmets... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3623577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Bretonnian Knights Errant - for your helmets...Yes I hesitated to use them. But they are not enought Teutonics for me. I prefer the Challenge of using Chaos Horns, GreenStuff and paint to make epic Teutonic Templars Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3623581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Marshal Selina [WIP] & Marshal Agna [WIP] first pic added, check first post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 I reached the limit of Picture on the First Post, so I'll post link to the pictures post on the first topic. Â High Marshal Zythius Stuff: - Indomitus Armor. - Shield of The Eternal. - Teeth of Terra. Â http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/065/7/3/_wh40k__high_marshal_zythius_by_zyth23-d795nol.jpg http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/065/a/6/_wh40k__high_marshal_zythius_002_by_zyth23-d795sl0.jpg http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/065/6/9/_wh40k__high_marshal_zythius_003_by_zyth23-d795sub.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/065/5/f/_wh40k__high_marshal_zythius_004_by_zyth23-d795t0l.jpg http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/065/5/7/_wh40k__high_marshal_zythius_005_by_zyth23-d795tdj.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Knight Paladin and Devastator Centurions: - 3x Dakka Centurions. (HB and Hurricane) - 3x Grav Centurions. (Grav-Cannon and Missile launcher) - 1x Knight Paladin  http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/066/c/a/_wh40k__knight_and_centurions_by_zyth23-d798spr.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggles Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Such an awesome looking and distinctive marshal. I love everything about him. I'd actually feel bad shooting at him. (if I was your opponent). Your centurions/knight is such a massive amount of dakka, I'd probably just shake your hand and avoid putting my orks on the table to save time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Knight Errant [WIP]: *all the Brown Part will be painted in Gold, I'm using a tips to get shiny gold* http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/068/6/3/_wh40k__imperial_knight_errant_001_by_zyth23-d79jn4s.jpg http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/068/a/5/_wh40k__imperial_knight_errant_002_by_zyth23-d79jnb6.jpg http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/068/2/c/_wh40k__imperial_knight_errant_003_by_zyth23-d79jngn.jpg *As Now I've made Brown into Gehena Gold, I feel like my Knight is actually a Black Legion Member. I hope the Gold will make it less Traitor looking. Or I'll have to remake the entire color sheme* http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/070/e/5/_wh40k__imperial_knight_errant_004_by_zyth23-d79slgs.jpg *I failed the paint on this one, I've recycled him into an Astral Claws Knight. I'll restart another Errant soon (my 3rd Knight) inspired on a Brother Work, which is awesome.* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Vanguards and Chaplain with Jetpacks: http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/075/a/c/_wh40k__vanguards_001_by_zyth23-d7agcb9.jpg http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/075/5/9/_wh40k__vanguards_002_by_zyth23-d7agcro.jpg http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/075/b/8/_wh40k__vanguards_003_by_zyth23-d7agcx1.jpg http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/075/c/b/_wh40k__vanguards_004_by_zyth23-d7agd5r.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Marshal Agna - Mistress of the Terminator [WIP]: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/076/b/5/_wh40k__marshal_agna_001__wip__by_zyth23-d7ak0hn.jpg http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/076/1/0/_wh40k__marshal_agna_002__wip__by_zyth23-d7ak0nu.jpg http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/076/6/1/_wh40k__marshal_agna_003__wip__by_zyth23-d7ak0s3.jpg http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/076/2/e/_wh40k__marshal_agna_004__wip__by_zyth23-d7ak0ya.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 >> quickly scrolls down not to look at the Knight << >> overcoming temptations << >> re-implementation of reason completed << Â Yeah, the red "edges" on the Vanguards looks great. Â EDIT: And I was pretty surprised looking at your marshalls. It was like this: "ha, those green stuff bits look like boobs... but they can't be... yeah, they are". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Marshal Selina [WIP]: http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/077/6/f/_wh40k__marshal_selina_001__wip__by_zyth23-d7ajz09.jpg http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/077/3/2/_wh40k__marshal_selina_002__wip__by_zyth23-d7ajz8k.jpg http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/077/b/1/_wh40k__marshal_selina_003__wip__by_zyth23-d7ajzed.jpg http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/077/4/4/_wh40k__marshal_selina_004__wip__by_zyth23-d7ajzi7.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Vanguards - Teutonic Knights Conversion [WIP]: Original Inspiration: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121006112903/totalwar/images/d/da/TO1.JPG Â Vanguards: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/075/2/b/_wh40k__vanguards___teutonic_knights_001__wip__by_zyth23-d7agjsc.jpg http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/076/3/2/_wh40k__vanguards___teutonic_knights_002__wip__by_zyth23-d7al0l4.jpg http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/076/4/8/_wh40k__vanguards___teutonic_knights_003__wip__by_zyth23-d7al0t2.jpg http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/076/b/2/_wh40k__vanguards___teutonic_knights_004__wip__by_zyth23-d7al1bn.jpg http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/076/5/a/_wh40k__vanguards___teutonic_knights_005__wip__by_zyth23-d7al1hj.jpg http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/076/f/1/_wh40k__vanguards___teutonic_knights_006__wip__by_zyth23-d7al1np.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 They're distinctive and definitely match your intended aesthetic. I'm not sure I'm entirely sold - they have a slight inherently renegade feel that I can't seem to shake. But, they're gonna look awesome regardless! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 It's interesting, and you really nailed the design, and Mattias does have a point, they do feel a tad renegade, perhaps if you mix in some 'plain' helmets, you could get rid of that look. (Or add other more ostentatious, but less horny decorations.) Personally, I think that if you used the actual Teutonic cross, and add a tiny Malteze one in a corner, it'd make them stand out more. Last minute addition: You know what, I just looked at your inspiration picture, and then it hit me. It's the shields. Those semi-circle cut outs really detract from the Teutonic Knight-look. And perhaps, by cutting of the top section, and leaving them with whole, but slightly smaller shields would enhance the look completely. Offcourse, these are just humble suggestions, yours to use or leave at your discretion. Also, I must apologize for missing that you shaved of the Chaos Icons of the shields. I must have my eyes re-checked. I know I have poor vision, but this poor? EDIT: You know what, after re-reading this post, I feel I come off too negative, because this is a daring conversion, and it's a really cool one. So I felt the need to stress that again, because they are awesome models! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 hmmm... the chaos looking icon on the head is still visible... the arrow thing on his forehead... Â also... the concept is cool and I do agree on it... but what I feel lacking is the Knightly look on the helmet and not the horns itself... If you look at the 1st picture of the teutonic Knights, instead of the (Mk. 7 Aquila) Skull-like design, they havve the old school Grey knight style helms (which has the Gundam-like mouth guard similar to 2 of the Black Templar helms). Maybe a quick chop of the horns, and place horns on the BT or GK helm would bring back that knightly look more... Â (Arrows on head BAD, they are a Mark of Chaos, namely the Black Legion, even Cypher who seeks to redeem his traitorous brethren in the eyes of the Emperor doesn't have one, that's why Guilliman's book is heresy, they have arrow marking for Tactical Squads and Fast Attack Squads!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3624754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 In some way, we are Renegades (We leaveed the Astartes Codex to make our own codex) Â But you're right on one point, the Chaos Arrow on the helmet, I've tryied to make it a part of a Templar Cross, but failed it on the first model. Â It's also the first early test, meaning I'll probably add details / change some parts. + they actually don't have Shoulder Pads and Backpack ^^ Â And for the helmet, it's also right they are not enought Knightly, I'll see on the Chaos Warrior box I've ordered if there is some good looking heads for my others vangs (need 7 more) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3625009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Marshal Selina [WIP] - Painted: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/077/f/f/_wh40k__marshal_selina_005__wip__by_zyth23-d7apfnl.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/077/0/c/_wh40k__marshal_selina_006__wip__by_zyth23-d7apfz3.jpg http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/077/4/1/_wh40k__marshal_selina_007__wip__by_zyth23-d7apg6q.jpg http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/077/c/b/_wh40k__marshal_selina_008__wip__by_zyth23-d7apgde.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/077/1/1/_wh40k__marshal_selina_009__wip__by_zyth23-d7apgn3.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/077/a/1/_wh40k__marshal_selina_010__wip__by_zyth23-d7apguf.jpg http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/077/e/b/_wh40k__marshal_selina_011__wip__by_zyth23-d7aph0i.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3625616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyth23 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 21st Crusade Icon first Test: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/079/2/1/_wh40k__21st_crusade_icon_001_by_zyth23-d7apsn6.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3625679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Keep it, that's an awesome crusade badge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287688-21st-redemption-crusade-cerberus-conversion-wip/page/2/#findComment-3625688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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