Niklaslinden Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 So I really want to hear about silly builds or ridiculous units and wargear loadouts that you've fielded or just thought of fielding just for gags. I believe there is some room in our codex to create that over-the-top feeling for a unit. It could be a whole silly army or just one ridiculous unit. Maybe you've tried 30 deathcompany in a unit with a chaplain? Or maybe 10 vanguards with 19 handflamers and stuck them in a land raider redeemer even.. Or maybe just 10 vanguards with 19 infernus pistols Oh, and dont forget allies. There's lots of things you can do with allies too. I mean take the 30 death company and chaplain and stick in an allied white scar HQ there to give them hit and run I would love to hear what you've tried or want to try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 15 footslogging DC who outflanked with my Warlord. That was fun... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 95 point Death Company unit /thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I've faced 15 footslogging DC generally bubble wrapped around the Sanguinor, and I forgot who was attached (either Astorath or another chaplain). My opponent had been using that and making people run from it. He was shocked when I assaulted it (with Dante and some Sanguinary Guard) and wiped him out. 95 point Death Company unit /thread. 30 DC with jump packs, 2 Thunder hammers each and Lemartes. 3000 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklaslinden Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 95 point Death Company unit /thread. Holy cr*p now THAT is silly :D 3000 points has to be the most expensive unit you could field in 40k?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklaslinden Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 I've faced 15 footslogging DC generally bubble wrapped around the Sanguinor, and I forgot who was attached (either Astorath or another chaplain). My opponent had been using that and making people run from it. He was shocked when I assaulted it (with Dante and some Sanguinary Guard) and wiped him out. 95 point Death Company unit /thread. 30 DC with jump packs, 2 Thunder hammers each and Lemartes. 3000 points. That is impressive! Cant imagine it could be done with only one unit of sanguinary guard though? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Dante has 7 attacks if there is a banner in the Sanguinary guard unit. The Sanguinary Guard would have 4 each... sooo 20 S5 ap3 attacks, 5 rerolls followed by 7 s6 ap2 axe attacks with 1 reroll. I'd expect that the sanguinary guard and dante would wipe out the DC only on a good day, and no way they'd kill 3 multi wound characters as well... they'd need to cause 22 unsaved wounds that also failed FNP... with 27 attacks. quick (poor) mathhammer attempt: 20 attacks, 10 hit, reroll the five and get 12.5 hits. 12.5 hits nets most likely around 8 wounds. 8 wounds no saves but the DC do get FnP and should save 2. so 6 dead DC. I assume the sanguinor wasn't even in the combat as he wasn't joined to the unit. Lemartes is Init 5 now that I think of it though... he has 3 attacks if he wasnt the one charging I think, he'd hit with 2, wound with 1 and the sanguinary guard would save though. 15 DC if they dont have init1 weapons would hit back with 45 attacks. should get about 30 hits. 15 wounds. 2-3 die Dante and Astorath fight a challenge (the other guy would be silly not to at least issue a challenge) Dante has 7 attacks hits with 4 thanks to a reroll (maybe) wounds with 3 astorath takes 1.5 wounds. Astorath has 4 attacks back (I think) hits with 2 wounds with 1 probably causes a wound thanks to forcing the reroll. so yeah... JamesI, you definitely punched well above your weight! the other thing it does though, is demonstrate how unimpressive our CC characters are :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Librarian Corbulo Allied Coteaz 10x Terminators w/ CML x2 or Librarian Corbulo Allied Xenos Inquisitor w/ Rad & Pyschotroke Grendades, Liber Herisus, Pysker 10x TH/SS Terminators Corbulo is probably the best thing in the BA codex if you want to field a Death Star type unit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonedog Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Holy Crap this is EPIC! Crying manly Sanguinius tears of Joy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenshard42 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Thought about doing an 18 man terminator armor squad and just marching it in a line across the board assaulting as many units as possible at a time never got a huge amount of thought into it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 ^^^ You're capped at 10 Terminators in a squad. You could field a theoretical squad of 22 - 10x Terminators, 6x TDA Priests, 2x TDA HQ, 2x Allied Space Wolf TDA HQ, 2x Inquisition TDA HQ; but I think you're getting decreasing returns versus points invested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I think you can go beyond that with wolf guards in TDA, but as stated above there's little point in making those kinds of death stars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 What about the all dreadnought list with added libbynoughts and the chapnought from FW stuff ? Apart from the chaplain dreadnought (which I am yet to purchase), I could make the army, and I know people on the internet have posted their ideas up, but always good to hear from those who have done it ? I also have 30 death company models, but they have magnetised arms and backpacks, just don't happen to have 30x dual TH's spare :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogen Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Corbulo is probably the best thing in the BA codex if you want to field a Death Star type unit This. Centurions with character support and Corbulo to tank is a tough tough unit. Add in a librarian for gate, and its a tough tough teleporting unit! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklaslinden Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 What about the all dreadnought list with added libbynoughts and the chapnought from FW stuff ? Apart from the chaplain dreadnought (which I am yet to purchase), I could make the army, and I know people on the internet have posted their ideas up, but always good to hear from those who have done it ? I also have 30 death company models, but they have magnetised arms and backpacks, just don't happen to have 30x dual TH's spare Yeah that is definitly crazy but very cool :D So you could take 5 deathcompany dreads plus 3 heavy plus 3 elites plus that guy from forgeworld :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3617987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklaslinden Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Corbulo is probably the best thing in the BA codex if you want to field a Death Star type unit This. Centurions with character support and Corbulo to tank is a tough tough unit. Add in a librarian for gate, and its a tough tough teleporting unit! hehe weell sticking corbulo with six devcents with 30 gravcannon and 18-36 boltershots sounds awesome ^^ maybe have a shield eternal HQ in there to.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Dante has 7 attacks if there is a banner in the Sanguinary guard unit. The Sanguinary Guard would have 4 each... sooo 20 S5 ap3 attacks, 5 rerolls followed by 7 s6 ap2 axe attacks with 1 reroll. I'd expect that the sanguinary guard and dante would wipe out the DC only on a good day, and no way they'd kill 3 multi wound characters as well... they'd need to cause 22 unsaved wounds that also failed FNP... with 27 attacks. quick (poor) mathhammer attempt: 20 attacks, 10 hit, reroll the five and get 12.5 hits. 12.5 hits nets most likely around 8 wounds. 8 wounds no saves but the DC do get FnP and should save 2. so 6 dead DC. I assume the sanguinor wasn't even in the combat as he wasn't joined to the unit. Lemartes is Init 5 now that I think of it though... he has 3 attacks if he wasnt the one charging I think, he'd hit with 2, wound with 1 and the sanguinary guard would save though. 15 DC if they dont have init1 weapons would hit back with 45 attacks. should get about 30 hits. 15 wounds. 2-3 die Dante and Astorath fight a challenge (the other guy would be silly not to at least issue a challenge) Dante has 7 attacks hits with 4 thanks to a reroll (maybe) wounds with 3 astorath takes 1.5 wounds. Astorath has 4 attacks back (I think) hits with 2 wounds with 1 probably causes a wound thanks to forcing the reroll. so yeah... JamesI, you definitely punched well above your weight! the other thing it does though, is demonstrate how unimpressive our CC characters are It was 5th edition when it happened, so all of my attacks were initiative 5 or 6 power weapons with no FNP allowed. So I pretty much wiped him out before he got to swing. I may have had a librarian and/or priest as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 That explains a lot! Although even thwn you rolled against the odds by a fair margine. 27 attachs causing 22 wounds is damned epic :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebymster Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Dante has 7 attacks if there is a banner in the Sanguinary guard unit. The Sanguinary Guard would have 4 each... sooo 20 S5 ap3 attacks, 5 rerolls followed by 7 s6 ap2 axe attacks with 1 reroll. I'd expect that the sanguinary guard and dante would wipe out the DC only on a good day, and no way they'd kill 3 multi wound characters as well... they'd need to cause 22 unsaved wounds that also failed FNP... with 27 attacks. quick (poor) mathhammer attempt: 20 attacks, 10 hit, reroll the five and get 12.5 hits. 12.5 hits nets most likely around 8 wounds. 8 wounds no saves but the DC do get FnP and should save 2. so 6 dead DC. I assume the sanguinor wasn't even in the combat as he wasn't joined to the unit. Lemartes is Init 5 now that I think of it though... he has 3 attacks if he wasnt the one charging I think, he'd hit with 2, wound with 1 and the sanguinary guard would save though. 15 DC if they dont have init1 weapons would hit back with 45 attacks. should get about 30 hits. 15 wounds. 2-3 die Dante and Astorath fight a challenge (the other guy would be silly not to at least issue a challenge) Dante has 7 attacks hits with 4 thanks to a reroll (maybe) wounds with 3 astorath takes 1.5 wounds. Astorath has 4 attacks back (I think) hits with 2 wounds with 1 probably causes a wound thanks to forcing the reroll. so yeah... JamesI, you definitely punched well above your weight! the other thing it does though, is demonstrate how unimpressive our CC characters are :P Don't forget the shooting of infernus pistols before charging and then the overwatch! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebymster Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 What about the all dreadnought list with added libbynoughts and the chapnought from FW stuff ? Apart from the chaplain dreadnought (which I am yet to purchase), I could make the army, and I know people on the internet have posted their ideas up, but always good to hear from those who have done it ? I also have 30 death company models, but they have magnetised arms and backpacks, just don't happen to have 30x dual TH's spare Yeah that is definitly crazy but very cool :D So you could take 5 deathcompany dreads plus 3 heavy plus 3 elites plus that guy from forgeworld :DI wanna do a dread list:3 fragiosos in pods, 3 dreads, Bjorn and dread as allies - but there's a sm guy who gives dreads as troops isn't there, so probably him... And them!?! 30 DC = 6 proper dreads too! Shame you can't put them all in ravens though. But to be realistic, gotta stay under 3k pts. That's prob way over. Could field Astorath and have 6 x 30 DC - for a whopping 36 DC dreads - but my fantasy has now spiraled right out of control!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Those dreads still take up troop slots, so you'd have a maximum of 12 DC units above 2k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebymster Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Those dreads still take up troop slots, so you'd have a maximum of 12 DC units above 2k. Woah! 5DC + 1 DC dread = 2 troops?!?!? School boy error! Thanks K&F. I've always got that wrong then, still never fielded an illegal list, just got the wrong end of the stick- thought it was like a transport because it says: for every 5 DC you are allowed 1 dread! 'Course it's a slot!! Well I'd like to max out however it's done! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebymster Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 So under 2k = 1 unit of 25 DC, and 5 DC dreads?!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The dreads are optional, so you could take any legal mix of dreads and DC units depending on if you have astorath as your HQ or not. But yes, as far as DC dreads go 5 is max below 2k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3618777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 A unit of 30 death company on foot, with Corbulo, Astorath, and Lemartes. Throw a Librarian just for fun. In actuality I want to run 30 foot slogging death company with mostly bolters and maybe 2 or 3 anti tank/MC/walker weapons. Should be around 600 points, so plently left for other stuff. I think this unit would work very well for distracting most opponents. The unit exists to slow down the enemy as much as possible while the rest of my Army completes objectives. Ive also wondered about 30 jump pack DC with Dante for fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287884-oh-thats-just-silly/#findComment-3619113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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