temneb Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 As the title states, other than the standard tournament requirements (I don't really play tournaments), and only by agreement etc. Purely as a points comparison is there any reason that you would take a Land Raider over a Spartan? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Standard raiders can be used as Dedicated Trans for your troops, whereas Spartans take up valuable HS slots. Beyond that, nope. I'm focusing on making an Apocalypse sized IW force, So I ignore FOC, lol. Spartans all the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Land Raiders don't make wallets cry as bad as Spartans do :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Heathens has the truth of it. If I took a Spartan, I wouldn't be able to take maximum Sicarans. I want to hug Phil Stutchiskas every time I use those beautiful tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulawful Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Heathens has the truth of it. If I took a Spartan, I wouldn't be able to take maximum Sicarans. I want to hug Phil Stutchiskas every time I use those beautiful tanks. Jebus, how many Sicarans do you bring? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Hey if I had 4 then I'd use them all ;) also LRs you can take in squadrons - so 1 Spartan or 3 LRs in that perspective aha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Spartans can actually be a dedicated transport for Terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Spartans can actually be a dedicated transport for Terminators. This, why isn't it on this thread already ? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Well you can take the land raider proteus and get the augury web to scout forward a squad of plasma or melta support squad into front cover and to get closer to your enemy. They provide a good LoS blocker to big shorty things that would generally obliterate said expensive glass hammer unit. Plus -1 to reserves for your opponents flyers and such are fun trolling :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I can't really think of why you would, unless you were just that starved for points. They made the Spartan way too cheap. 1 hull point, 2 more lascannons, 15 more transport capacity, the option to take a flare shield, all for less than 50 points (flare shield and armored ceramite still extra, of course). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solly Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 In my case its a preference/fluff thing. my nl force is based on the fact that they didnt get broken down after the heresey (no codex) so are still a legion. they therefore use all the old tech so iv gone for a spartan over a land raider as i feel it fits the fluff better. i also think they look better as well. its just the price that let them down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The spartan tracks were a pain in the butt to put on too, they are still misaligned on mine :/ Lol I'm good now with resin, but my lord, that Spartan was an absolute pain to build Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Raiders vs. spartans? Obviously Sicarans. With the Armoured Spearhead RoW, I'd be able to take one or two LRaiders, and then max out on Sicarans, and while also bringing a Baneblade variant in the LoW slot. MMMM.....tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
temneb Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Hahaha. I'm doing world eaters, so focusing on troops not tanks;) I'm trying to figure if it's worth going for the 3 troops units and 2 transports or just taking troops exclusively with a couple of melta squads following behind and ignore flyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Y'all keep focusing on those Sicarans; When my Laser Destroyers on my Spartans start hitting your boys with Ord death-rays, we'll see whose laughing last. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3622931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Mechanicum has access to some pretty nifty Land Raiders, but you're right as far as using the Heavy slot for Land Raiders over Spartans: not wise! Spartans are almost too powerful with the ability to nerf melta. As a guy who's going to run mainly flyers for my RG, I always look longingly at those beauties when browsing FW.com. EDIT: Especially the one on the site painted in XIX colors!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3623025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 But but but 3 land raider achillies for one slot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3623069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 You can only take one Achilles per land raider battle squadron. Unless there is something in the second book about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3623116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Three land raider squadrons with 3 achillies and 6 others heck yes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3623119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Wow! That would be a ton of points just to field three of them. Would like to see it though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3623134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 So would I :) Appocalypse anyone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3623149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solly Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 The spartan tracks were a pain in the butt to put on too, they are still misaligned on mine :/ Lol I'm good now with resin, but my lord, that Spartan was an absolute pain to build Cant agree enough! i actually had to snap 2 sections in half to get them on due to the fact they were badly deformed in relation to the track runners. not to mention the fact that due to fw decision to make the track unit/side hulls 1 complete unit the finished model weighs about 2/3 of a ton. i stand by my decision though. it fits the fluff (i fully realize they used raiders during the crusade/heresy but still...) and the finished model looks (imo) very good and better then the various raiders. i would like to use a fell blade as well but iv used codex csm so its a no go. still think the spartan over the raider for the reasons given though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3624082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The spartan tracks were a pain in the butt to put on too, they are still misaligned on mine :/ Lol I'm good now with resin, but my lord, that Spartan was an absolute pain to build And that's what is putting me off buying one! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3625552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstra Sumus Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Speaking from experience, don't get a fellblade then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3625570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimboholdsworth Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The spartan tracks were a pain in the butt to put on too, they are still misaligned on mine :/ Lol I'm good now with resin, but my lord, that Spartan was an absolute pain to build Massive ditto, i cut some bits off the tracks and sort of hid the gap underneath. I thought getting a Fell blade would be cool for my legion but can't face trying to stick one together. Back on topic - If money was no object then yeah its Spartans all the way, but if you already have Land raiders, then you'd be a fool not to use them. I hope to fill my Spartan with Rogal Dorn, Terminator captain and 10 Huscarls (assuming FW make them) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288115-spartan-why-would-you-go-for-a-land-raider/#findComment-3625590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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