Smurfalypse Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 An interesting development on this. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/03/helbrute-datasheet-includes-3-new.html Sounds pretty sweet to me, this confirms that the formation will not just be a way to take multiples outside of the FOC. There will actually be some rules and such. Helcult Mayhem Pack Helfast Murderpack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebris Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Despite, ahem the names more fitting in a saturday evening cartoon, I hope that these formation will be worthy. The cult one sounds fun when you field a brute on foot an you need some expendable fooder to provide cover, the deep strike one sounds like te one to go by if you want to clog some shooty army with several nasty brutes in deep strike, while the last one is there for one who likes to spam walkers. I hope GW will not waste this opportunity to sell the hellbrute kits with bad rules for the formations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3622895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfalypse Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 lol the names are a bit overkill, but truthfuly the Helbrutes cannot get any more unplayable than they currently are, so I am viewing this with a massive amount of excitement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3622911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Man way ahead of you guys. New models thread Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3622913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfalypse Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Man way ahead of you guys. New models thread Why you always gotta ruin our fun? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3622920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Huh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3622923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 a ) deep striking helbrute squadrons b ) helbrutes in cultists squads c ) character helbrute + pack this could actually be nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I'm feeling optimistic enough that I went out and bought the new model. Not going to finish assembling it (or reconverting my other brutes) until I see the dataslate, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 If they are good I'll seriously consider grabbing a ven dread to convert, the new model is nice, but my other dreads are very much "dreadnoughts" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I'll be going the other direction, mutating up my FW Black Legion dread to fit in better with my starter box and new plastic brutes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disciple of Fulgrim Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Lots of potential here, from both a fluff and crunch perspective. Imagine if the Helcult ends up being a mixed unit, with the Brute acting like an attached IC who makes his Cultist worshippers Fearless, and can also Look Out Sir! shots onto the Cultists - both useful and hilarious IMO. Or how about if the teleporting Mayhem Pack benefits from the same City of Death Strategem available to Black Legion Terminators (only 1D6 scatter and can reroll mishaps)? So what could go wrong? Well, the snippets of fluff make it sound like the Mayhen Pack Brutes will be extra crazy (uh oh), "the Cultists too may feel the Helbrute's wrath" in the Helcult (also uh oh, though still hilarious) and in the Helfast Murderpack, your Brutes only stay sane while your Venerable Dread equivalent (or whatever it turns out to be) is still alive (which just seems kind of meh to me.) We shall see, but at least we can look forward to three rolls of the dice in the one Dataslate - hopefully at least one of the new Formations will be worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Deepstriking Helbrutes. Mmmmmm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Mmmmm..... http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3753/13198196455_88acf10944_b.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Can't wait, can't wait http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2890/13198790115_c6a8ff1c3f_b.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 How would they explain so many dreadnoughts fluffwise though? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 We'll a dreadnought isn't the sort of thing that can retreat easily. So maybe they picked up 3x legions do worth at istaven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 apparently they punch out helbrutes like candy.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Actually, the "Helfist Murderpack" (ugh, feels like I lost IQ points just writing that) is specifically explained as being several warbands pooling their Dreads together to attack an especially juicy target with the oldest Dread taking ad hoc command over the formation. But whatever, I mean this is the same game in which you can run 2 daemon princes in an army of like 30 total guys. This isn't really isn't such a strech. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I always assumed it was as easy as: Fabius creates insane clone; Dark AdMech creates shell; Sorceror performs final 'assembly' of clone (or other 'volunteer") and shell. Wash hands after to mantain sanitary conditions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Previewed fluff pages say that chaos forges mass produce helbrutes, unlike loyalist dreadnoughts which are all painstakingly created individually. Internment within a brute is a feared punishment rather than an honorable sacrifice. Each brute has a quiescent daemonic spirit that feeds on suffering, and the victim entombed within is less a pilot and more a power source. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 They REALLY better provided some Daemon, Daemonforge, IWND then... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Definitely like Mali's description the best. Could you imagine those things if they were around the same price with those rules? Even just one or two of them (IWND or Daemonforge) would make them much better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3623956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Previewed fluff pages say that chaos forges mass produce helbrutes, unlike loyalist dreadnoughts which are all painstakingly created individually. Internment within a brute is a feared punishment rather than an honorable sacrifice. Each brute has a quiescent daemonic spirit that feeds on suffering, and the victim entombed within is less a pilot and more a power source. I love chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288135-helbrute-formation-rumors/#findComment-3624014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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