Castrmen Orth Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Hi guys i am thinking of taking the plunge and starting a heresy army. My usual legion of choice is the iron tenth. However recently i have been looking at heresy alpha legion as i think they offer a different take on a legion force. On a colour scheme note. What colour where the alphas pre heresy? Does the purple scheme still apply or has something different come out in the new fluff? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The purple scheme still applies, the traditional deep purple with a kind of greenish shine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 I presume they will be getting some kind of special squad ie an upgraded seeker squad or recon squad. Anybody have any idea on marks of armour or such? I always thought of at least mark iv armour and cataphracti armour for normal terminators and tartarus for effrit stealth squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thats a negatory on that purple scheme :D Recent fluff from the Scars novel and the short AL stories before it state that the Alpha Legion’s scheme was sapphire/silver before the heresy (and possibly with an emphasis with Alpha logos), and turquoise after it (with a deduced emphasis on Omega), with both schemes present during the heresy force compositions. Take from that what you will; personally I believe to be the old colour scheme to be troops sworn to Alpharius, while the “new” scheme FW is rocking out on their models to be the Omegon side. Do take note that the artwork for an upcoming work on AL portrays them in blue and silver, but since past artwork also portrayed them in purple, don’t look too deep into that, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Very interesting. What is the upcoming work you speak of? They are a very sneaky legion indeed. Am i right in believing that the effrit stealth squad year black armour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristeo Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Effrit wears darkened power armour. Can't really sneak around in terminator armour. As far as colour scheme goes, I think it's become a sort of inside joke or something. The colour is never the same from source to source. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Effrit wears darkened power armour. Can't really sneak around in terminator armour. As far as colour scheme goes, I think it's become a sort of inside joke or something. The colour is never the same from source to source. They’re just covering the discrepancy (if it even is) between two schemes before the heresy started and after, sort of like the luna wolves to the sons of horus. If the former scheme does stand for Alpharius and the latter for Omegon, we have some very interesting possibilities there Direct quote from Scars is “as with all within the legion, everything was in a state of flux”. Orth: here’s the artwork I speak of http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/287613-the-horus-heresy-weekender/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Ah now i feel a bit stupid. Never realised it was just power armour. What are the first company elite called or are they currently unknown? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The Lernean Terminator Squad are Alpharius’ elites and are what the Effrit stealth squad is for Omegon. You’re better off hoping onto Lexicanum for some hard fluff, or the Wikia for a general overview on the Alpha Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Sea Green or Indigo are the usual descriptions, I noticed in the updated version of Legion its changed from Purple (Which is good as mine are indigo-blue!)But the new HH Book is due out at the Open day or weekender, and that will have a LOT of info on them and colour schemes, only a couple of weeks for the Open day (Not that im counting the days or anything...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Due out at the open day as a general release or exclusively early for participants? Speaking of turquoise legionnaires... http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/03/40k-showcase-alpha-legion-expand.html?m=1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristeo Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 That's a great looking Alpha Legion army, but I think that colour looks closer to 2nd edition Ultramarines than turquoise. We had a discussion over at The Serpent's Lair a while ago about colour schemes. The Pre-Heresy colour scheme is indigo, halfway between blue and purple. Nauseating blue was the old Citadel paint colour, which Vallejo's Sick blue is the closest match. After the events in Legion, the colour started to change towards blue-green or turquoise. That pic from the Weekender looks like the Pre-heresy colour to me, and not like sapphire. Sapphire just looks blue to me. But I'm in the process of painting my AL in desert colours, so by all means, paint them whatever colour you like! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 so would sotek green be a good colour to use? perhaps with a green glaze? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/Bv6ub8U.jpg This is the forge world HH scheme, taken from the big posters they had at some event. From it we can see AL are blue with green rather then purple. Also Icon is white. Also subtle omega on the A chain symbol on the leg. There is no guarantees, but that's what I would go with. I assume the helmet stripe is for sergeants and not line troops. I got this image from wikia, but I believe its just a croped version of this one. (In case you want the source pic) http://i.imgur.com/5O9WaWn.jpg Edited a bunch of time for source pic and spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristeo Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Blue wash will work better with Sotek green to get close to the pic above. That's what Excessus uses and his look pretty close to this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Id certainly recommend using at least a bit of white with the Insignia, whichever foolish mortal picked Green to go with Blue wasnt a painter! :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3623743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 That is a gorgeous scheme cheers guys. It looks suitably reptilian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3624065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/g5Imse9.jpg This is the teaser scheme. Looks god damn sexy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3626234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 It certainly does! :) Hydra dominatus! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3626238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 That teaser excites me to no end about the goodies that are imminent for the AL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3626616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjasuperspy Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I threw together a test marine a while back with Sotek Green/Druchii Violet/Waywatcher Green but that ended up WAY TOO GREEN. I was working on a purple test scheme based on the cover of Legion & the Index Astartes stuff but all of that has been thrown aside to try and nail a near-as version of Forgeworld's Teal without their recommended silver base with green & blue glazes. So far I have a base of Vallejo Turquoise mixed with Metallic Medium. It is interesting but washing & glazing that with anything darkens it down too much and kills the slight shine of the Metallic Medium. Either I'm not using enough Medium or I'm going to have to think of something else. Or buy an airbrush with I'm sure my wife will LOVE. Eh, she's out of town next week anyway. "What's that?" "Oh, this old thing? I've had it for ages!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288151-starting-an-alpha-legion-force/#findComment-3626802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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