SethsChosen Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Greetings brothers, Over the last few years i have been dabbling in various different 40k armies, searching for something that would give me the feel i had back in the days of second edition when i played space wolves. Much too-ing and fro-ing over armies lead me to a dark place and in frustration i just gave up 40k. This was back before the 6th ed release, I have kept 1 eye on the game and developments over the time since. Gw released the glorious knight models and for the first time in a long time something prickled the senses and made me look at the game. Then a few posts by the #warmongers community of twitter turned a prickling into a full blown desire to play the game. I had a bunch of models kicking about to try and restart my wolves, but i just got bored painting grey again. So i got thinking about the colours i enjoy painting. Red has become one of my favourites over the years. So with that in mind i thought about the armies available, Wrote off khorne as i don't really like chaos, thought about Blood Angels and thought they were a tad too sparkly for my current mindset. Than a random memory surfaced in the darkness of my mind and i remembered a long way back when white dwarf was running the Index Astartes articles, i remembered trying to paints some flesh tearers and just loving the darker, meaner and downright pschopathic nature of the chapter. Well from my name and the post, you can guess what happened. So i come to you Brothers of the blood with hope renewed and a desire to rend and tear the enemy. I am sure there will be many questions over the coming weeks, concerning changes in 40k, the viability of 'BA codex forces', developments in the fluff of the Flesh Tearers, etc etc. The most prevelant question right now for me is in regards to Death Company vehicles. I know i have always seen them painted up in DC colours, but a thought occured to me. Would the vehicles not be from the main armoury? I mean..would you really trust in the man gone mad, death company to pilot and drive vehicles?. Or would they be crewed by less, extreme marines and thus still in chapter normal colours. But for now, i wanted to say hi, mind the slightly crazed lunatic rocking in the corner caressing his chain axe. He doesn't bite. Often. On that note, i am off to work on my initial purchases. 10 Death Company, Death Company Dreadnought and a Storm Raven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth84 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Greetings fellow Tearer of the Flesh! Excellent choice of chapter, I hope you enjoy painting and playing the boys in red and black. Concerning Death company vehicles, it is entirely upto you how you paint their transport. You are correct in saying that the death company would not necessarily have their own dedicated transport painted in their colours, it's upto the players personal choice. It can be cool to have a black vehicle with the red saltaires as a psychological threat to other players, but from a sheer practical use I find it easier to use chapter normal colours, at least at first, as it allows you to use the vehicle for other units, especially if it's an expensive stormraven. From a fluff perspective any DC transport would be piloted by non black rage succombed marines as once they are succombed they would be unable to pilot or drive anything. Also the Flesh Tearers as a chapter supposedly have few vehicles left so would probaly not have enough for a dedicated DC Stormraven. Hope this helps. PS. If you buy the DC dread kit, save the frag cannon and buy a cheap dreadnought of Ebay to make a Fragioso, then get a drop pod. Fantastic unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/#findComment-3630646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethsChosen Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Thanks for the welcome Seth84. Like i said lots of questions. What do people think the optimal load out for the stormraven acting as a death company taxi is? I'm inclined to go melta/plasma for a bit of all round threat, though the ml/assault cannon load out seems to better support the hurricane pattern bolters, especially for massed rank thinning. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/#findComment-3630810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepowerofwar Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Well with a raven you can fire 5 weapons at full BS a turn thanks to POTMS and since a flyer can only fire at most 2 missiles a turn I always take hurricane bolters to take advantage of that. Besides that fact that everything but the missiles are twin linked so snap firing the 6th weapons not such a bad thing. As for the main guns I like using the melta for anti AV and the LC for POTMS long range harassment shots/anti AV. I am not too big of a fan of the Plasma since you cant fire it at ground targets or a flyer if you fire at a flyer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/#findComment-3630917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I like the typhoon, despite the price tag. Honestly would rather spend the points for that compared to the hurricane sponsons. The things you can kill with a bunch of bolter shots isn't the thing Ba tend to struggle with. Typhoon has volume of fire, can shoot frag for targets of opportunity (packed enemy formations) and is unlikely to ever be out of range as long as it's pointed in the right direction. The twinlinked MM only has a significant advantage vs vehicles inside of 12". TL assault cannons and typhoon gets my vote for general purpose loadout. Oh one more thing, never save your blood strike missiles. It's better to 'waste' them shooting at something less than ideal than not getting to shoot them at all because you got shot down, had to evade or suffered a velocity lock. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/#findComment-3631190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanis Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Welcome to the fold and great to see the Tearer chapter getting more recruits, even if I dislike them. :P For me personally the idea the Chapter has painted transports for the DC is...less than ideal. They're already painting and using suits of Powered armor for their poor, lost brethren and I don't think they'd keep a few vehicles laying about just for those uses. Considering it lists in the codex the total number of vehicles, compared to the number of Astartes, they're all going to be either being repaired, in use, or on their way to use. Not dedicated to a single and relatively small unit of dead-men walking; but, that's only my view of it. I would agree with the previous posts, especially Knife's about the Raven loadout and missiles! I've lost my Raven before it could fire them all and it was quite a sad event losing such precious deadly warheads! XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/#findComment-3631265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethsChosen Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'm edging towards the Lascannon, melta,hurricane bolters load out. Death comapny dreadnought is now assembled with basic load out + blood talons. Now to load out the 10 death company who will be hitching the ride. Sure seems to need a bit of control on these boys, easy to load them up to the nines and realise the troop just cost everything you have lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/#findComment-3631475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I like to use Storm Ravens in pairs, one packed with 5TH/SS termies with Corbulo the other one with DC Dread with Claws, I usually drop the DC alone in drop pod, with Fragiouso in T1 wave... Moreover, I tend to use 7 DC in single pod with all bolter, but 2 with Axe+pistol. Lastly, my usual SR load out is AC( rends baby rends) and MM, sometimes I do hurricane bolters, however they are rather expensive for what they truly bring. But there are those times when you wish you had volume of fire... Hope it helps ~BT Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/#findComment-3631543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Welcome aboard, fellow Son of Cretacia. On the fluff-side of things, I recommend getting your blood-soaked hands on anything Flesh Tearer-related written by Andy Smillie, most notably Flesh of Cretacia. He has done a wonderful job on the Chapter. Also get Aaron-Dembski Bowden's short story At Gaius Point, you'll love it. http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/flesh-of-cretacia-ebook.html http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/at-gaius-point-ebook.html Most of the stuff is in digital format though, so you need a .epub or .mobi reader for your computer/tablet/phone. Fortunately you can find good reader apps for free. And if you are looking for chain-axes, as you should, I recommend getting them from Anvil Industry. Linky here: http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_88&product_id=233 For Sanguinius! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288491-flesh-to-be-torn/#findComment-3632493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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