daemonprinceofchaos Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Greetings I’m looking for some help fighting against a necron listthat always seems to pose a problem to me. Try as I might I never can seem toget the upper hand on this guy. My list is as follows Black Legion 1x Belakor 1x Lvl 3 Sorcerer w/ Spell familiar and Last Memory 3x Ten man CSM squads w/ 2 meltaguns, power sword, Meltabomb + rhino w/ dozer blades 2x Heldrakes w/ bale flamers 2x Forgefiends 1x Helbrute w/ Plasma cannon His list is this 1x Illuminor Seraz 1x Overlord w/ Warscythe, phylactery, mindshackle, Phaseshifter, sempiternal weave, 1x Ten man Deathmark Squad + crpytek w/ abyssal staff, veilof darkness 1x Ten man Immortal Squad w/ Telsa + Cryptek w/ Cronometron. 1x Ten Man Warrior squad w/ ghost ark 1x Ten Man Warrior squad 1x Anihilation Barge 1x 20 man warrior squad 1x 20 man warrior squad + Necron Lord w/ Warscythe, res orb,mindshakle 1x eight man flayed one squad Thanks in advance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Well...what kind of help do you want? List or tactics? Your army lacks long range anti tank to deal with the barge and ark. The deathmarks will nuke one squad, then you have to focus fire and wipe them out so they don't do it again. Be'lakor should be puppet mastering the annihilation barge every turn. I don't see why you're having so much trouble, really. The opponent has little to deal with forge fiends and helldrakes beyond the anni barge. He also appears to have more stuff than you. How many points? I make his around 2000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3632137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonprinceofchaos Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 Well...what kind of help do you want? List or tactics? Your army lacks long range anti tank to deal with the barge and ark. The deathmarks will nuke one squad, then you have to focus fire and wipe them out so they don't do it again. Be'lakor should be puppet mastering the annihilation barge every turn. I don't see why you're having so much trouble, really. The opponent has little to deal with forge fiends and helldrakes beyond the anni barge. He also appears to have more stuff than you. How many points? I make his around 2000 Yes its 2000 normally. Whatever help you can give is greatly appreciated. Normally he glances the drakes out of the sky with gauss shots and glances the fiends to death with the ghost ark and occupants. I do tend to have trouble with the vehicles which always pose a real threat, but normally Belakor and the Fordgefiends can work with my melta squads to destroy any real problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3632147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'd probably drop one of the CSM squads and the brute for 3x obliterators, mark of nurgle, for some longe range lascannons.<br /><br />Plasma cannons can punish him if he bunches those big warrior squads, and their assault cannons will punish him if he doesnt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3632660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfalypse Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Remake your army into a rush close combat oriented force and you will drop him like nothing :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3632713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Remember, Mindshackle scarabs can only be used if the bearer is in B2B contact with a model at the beginning of the fight phase. If he has to pile in, or has a model pile into him before being in B2B, then the scarabs cannot be used. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3632963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfalypse Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Remember, Mindshackle scarabs can only be used if the bearer is in B2B contact with a model at the beginning of the fight phase. If he has to pile in, or has a model pile into him before being in B2B, then the scarabs cannot be used. Also, it is a RANDOM model in base to base, so you want to try and get as many people next to that as you cant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3632984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 not a single AB. interesting . List is too slow to survive concentrated daka . fewer csm , more kill units . Belkors, mace dps , bikers and nurgle biker lords . oblits >other hvy support choices . dreads taken only , if hellcult formation is taken . BL is only for hard core BL fluff players at all other times use the CS codex with either csm ally or demon ally . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3633139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I see lots of troops of that Necron player who are to run around in the open (at least 50 warriors), might be time to bust out those Defilers as there pieplates might get an easy hit on those big units. Maybe add a big unit of cultists with mark of Tzeentch to the mix and you can even protect your Defiler from any teleporting trickery, 35 of them are actually dirt cheap, and they get an invul save almost for free. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3633647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJL Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Im not sure i agree with marked cultists. It is almost always better to take them unmarked. more bodies beats crappy inv save every time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288544-help-me-with-defeating-necrons/#findComment-3636073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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