Brother Vidius Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've recently returned to the hobby after a few years absence and have been enthralled by the Horus Heresy range! So a couple of months ago I took the plunge and bought both the FW books, 30 MkIII marines, the Praetors set and 5 Cataphractii. Since then I've been concentrating on Fantasy but with the imminent arrival of Extermination I'm looking to add to my Iron Warriors force. Not sure what to add as I've not played 40K in a good few years! I'm certain that at least one Sicaran will be included. What are the "must include" units for the Heresy? What are the best layouts for support squads/heavy support squad? Anyone in or near Glasgow with a Heresy force? Can't find too many interested at the GW! Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 That's the best part of 30k, there are no must haves. Everything has a counter and the balance is great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3636995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Can't have to many Medusas. Or Sicarans.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3636997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 You can take one squad of artillery (up to 3 tanks all the same), either Medusas or Basilisks make the most sense. If you go with a Siege Breaker consul I'd go for Medusa as they get the fancy shells. But the Iron Warriors may get their own consul like some of the others have (unlikely). The Iron Warriors seem to be getting their own Heavy Support of some kind so I'd hold off there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3637010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 What the others have said, and breacher siege squads. They look fantastic in the silver colour scheme and fit the brutality of the IV perfectly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3637028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vidius Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Thanks guys! Due to some luck with the football results I'll be placing an order today. What's the best layout for Contemptors? Thinking plasma cannon but not 100% sure. Too many great tanks to try and fit in! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3637626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I run mine with 2x Kheres, 2x auto cannon or 2x lascannons. Never considered the plasma as I have other means of clearing terminators and their like. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3637636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vidius Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Thanks! Just made my order, decided upon a Contemptor with two assault cannons, ten Breacher marines, five more Cataphractii, a Sicaran and some shoulder pads. Whats the most effective layout for the Cataphractii? Currently I've went for twin lightning claws sergeant and four with powerfists and one plasmablaster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3638561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I run mine (average 5 man squad) 1 powerfist, 1 thunder hammer OR chainfist and 3 power weapons (mostly swords and mauls) and combi-weapons and whichever special suits the unit - so currently I've got 20 Cataphractii with a total of 1 Reaper, 2 Plasma Blasters, 6 Combi-Weapons, 1 Flamer, 4 Powerfists, 3 Chainfists, 6 Lightning Claws (2 are pairs) and 1 Thunder Hammer... They saunter up the field and blow things to hell haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3638631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraCaptain Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I would take atleast one chainfist to wreck faces in a terminator squad. A valid strategy for a 3000pt army would be (hammer and anvil) perturabo, pride of the legion, and terminator army (hammer) with power armour in bastions (anvil) and Aegis defence lines. Iron Warriors can't fall back from shooting casulties which makes them very solid in a fortitied position.Peturabo makes terminators have deep strike. Pride of the legion for troops. Perturabo gives any unit in his army furious charge in the enemy deployment zone (also allies). And Perturabo makes you roll reserves from turn 1 and not turn 2. Add a comm-relay bastion for reserve bonus. I would also add nuncio vox on anything possible (no scattering terminators) and auguray scanner on power armour units.You are going to want terminaors and missile launcher guys - their special units are litterly insane But I would never ever take a warsmith or the IW rite of war. The rite of war allows the following bonuses: to make disordered charge after firing rapid fire weapons - this only really apply to a breacher squad used as tarpit OR a tactical squad equipped with only bolters who just made fury of the legion in the previous turn. Can't see it benefit anything really.What you get from the IW rite is 1 heavy support squad slot in expense for 1 more troop required, no SM allies, limited fast attack based on heavy (max 1 less than heavy) and required to take warsmith or siegebreaker (who are both less good). The price for that one heavy support is like paying a billion for a fiat500..1. you do not want that many 'normal' roops : you want support squads and terminators instead2. you want allies : to take benefit of perturabos turn 1 reserve and furious charge, so an outflanking chapter is golden.3. a praetor is expensive and bad when you got perturabo, the special characters are however good.. and worth taking even (or especially) in low point games.In 2000pt I would not go with a praetor for IW (my opinion). The Warsmith awards 1 more victory point if killed, making it two as he is likely the general, (cost 4 more points than number of days in a long month) and for no real benefit other than a servo arm and battlesmith.A 3000pt army could look something likePerturabo (pride of the legion, castellan FoC)Librarian/MoS3 units of 5 terminators1-2 units of 5 unique IW terminatorsBastion,defence lineother fortitications from expensive book i do not know of1 support squad (calivers)2 iron havoc support squad (missile launchers, tank hunter, flakk)1-2 Medusa1 Javelin attack speedermaybe 20 breachers, with chaplain or kyr vhalen (latter if no perturabo, both remvoing the mos/lib)idea for caliver and iron havoc is to man quadgun and bastions you place nearby objectives. Terminators and perturabo to assault enemy objectives and reinforce your own by having a nuncio vox so they can be placed precise in your own zone. (and capture those objectives your iron havoc sit on) If I could take drop pods I would take one and give it a squad with nuncio vox (which you in theory can with world eater allies .. ) to make a turn 1 drop to make turn 2+ terminators a safer landing behind enemy lines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3638666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Thanks! Just made my order, decided upon a Contemptor with two assault cannons, ten Breacher marines, five more Cataphractii, a Sicaran and some shoulder pads. Must have been a cracking result on the football! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3638672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vidius Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Thanks UltraCaptain! Seems like our Primarch is very useful indeed! I'm on a lucky run keith! Won't last long though I'm sure Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3639647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Don't forget to make a log once your stuff arrives! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3640249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vidius Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 My order has arrived! Looks like I have a busy weekend ahead of me. I'll get some pics up of my current stuff ASAP! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3641213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Whats the most effective layout for the Cataphractii? now that I realized that the tyrant siege terminators come with CYCLONE missle launchers (identical to 40k SM cyclones, 30k rules are in HH2 p.200, javelin speeder), not havoc launchers (which suck just like their CSM counterpart), I'd say the definite answer to your question is: glue missle launchers to their backs ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3641874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Spartans and Tyrant Siege terminators.. oh sweet jesus, I want those models now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3642153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vidius Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 Yeah the terminators sound awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288777-iron-warriors-ideas/#findComment-3643320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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