Excessus Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Assuming also they don't have a massive civil war as BL has hinted towards. That's just people reading too much into it, again... Sure there might be a split, but a massive civil war, where exactly do they hint at that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Assuming also they don't have a massive civil war as BL has hinted towards. That's just people reading too much into it, again... Sure there might be a split, but a massive civil war, where exactly do they hint at that? Maybe not massive, but certainly destructive. After all, one of the twin Primarchs is willing to pay any price if it means achieving whatever his goals are. This includes men, superweapons and the Cabal representative. Oh, and lying to his brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 They are both throwing away manpower, weapons and other things along the way. At the end of all Alpha Legion centric stories, most of the ones siding with the Alpha legion (including even Alpha Legionnaires in most cases) ends up dying. They throw away an entire fleet and all its resources after Nurth in Legion, all operatives are thrown away in both The Serpent Beneath and Deliverance Lost, including one of their more prominent captains even. Alpha legion can very much be seen as both wasteful and suicidal if you only read BL books... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Assuming also they don't have a massive civil war as BL has hinted towards. That's just people reading too much into it, again... Sure there might be a split, but a massive civil war, where exactly do they hint at that? Your so semantic I said massive you say no. What has happened in HH that isn't massive? If they follow that civil war plot through I'm sure it will be massive, and likely vague as to who won in typical AL fashion. You can call it reading into too much, but if A and O are against each other what do you think will happen? The author will just have them have some fisticuffs and get back to being mysterious? I don't think so, you are too conservative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Remember, it isn't always the right or left. More often than not, it falls in the middle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yogi, it might just as well end with a poisoned dagger in the back. I see what yo're saying but the evidence for it is circumstantial (sp?) at best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Never thought I'd say this, but I'm being drawn to this Legion and it's taken me by surprise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Excessus I'd understand what you're saying were it about any other entity, but the very nature of Astartes would rebel from submission. Now if Alpharius puts his brother down, I'm not saying our legion would do what the other 16 would do (maybe even the RG) and open up with bolters blazing backed up by a glorious pride roar as a swan song. What I think Yogi is implying is yes, they would stand and watch in silence as their twin-liege died, but over the following week Alpharius will find his forces decimated through dread claw malfunctions and untimely cases of hull integrity failures. Now BL can take the quick easy way and keep the Legion betrayal between the two true brothers, but I think they will be missing out a hell of a lot of content (or a much as possible for one legion) by not tackling a veritable shadow war within the Legion. Edit: Yogi, not Kol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fission Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 If Alpharius put down his brother he could replace him with a deamon...or a clone... These sort of things happen.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I sense a splintering in the Legion. By the end of the Heresy I think they will be a fractured as the rest of the traitor Legions. If it's open warfare or a shadow war between the twins, I can't say. So, any mention of Knights and the Alpha Legion. I just made a purchase... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3641980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water. Then Rukshana has Johns baby who turns out to be a boss inquisitor or something. I see what you're planning Abnett. Trying to steal my money again eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3642391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Any word on the AL battle on paramor? Is that the name? The ad mech world.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3642537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water. Then Rukshana has Johns baby who turns out to be a boss inquisitor or something. I see what you're planning Abnett. Trying to steal my money again eh? Except that immortals can't have children. Ramirez said so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3642581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water. Then Rukshana has Johns baby who turns out to be a boss inquisitor or something. I see what you're planning Abnett. Trying to steal my money again eh? Except that immortals can't have children. Ramirez said so.Ramirez also said an immortal would stay dead if you took his head off....... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3642604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 He did stay dead. They never made another movie with him in it, you understand? It. Never. Happened. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 He did stay dead. They never made another movie with him in it, you understand? It. Never. Happened. Neither did Vulkan Lives. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water. Then Rukshana has Johns baby who turns out to be a boss inquisitor or something. I see what you're planning Abnett. Trying to steal my money again eh? Except that she can't have kids. She's an old Uxor... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water. Then Rukshana has Johns baby who turns out to be a boss inquisitor or something. I see what you're planning Abnett. Trying to steal my money again eh? Except that she can't have kids. She's an old Uxor... Life always finds a way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water.Then Rukshana has Johns baby who turns out to be a boss inquisitor or something. I see what you're planning Abnett. Trying to steal my money again eh? Except that she can't have kids. She's an old Uxor... Life always finds a way. Hey! No Jurassic Park quotes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water. Then Rukshana has Johns baby who turns out to be a boss inquisitor or something. I see what you're planning Abnett. Trying to steal my money again eh? Except that she can't have kids. She's an old Uxor... Life always finds a way. Hey! No Jurassic Park quotes! I refuse to be a part of a system with such outlandish restrictions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Book III is up for pre order so, Alpha Legion, assemble ! ( ehem, slip really really quietly into position and knife them in the back at the ordained,optimal moment ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fission Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Except those two hetman and John's girlfriend. When the dust settles and the flames die down, I foresee them being the only survivors of the true Alpha Legion, stranded on Eskrador with no food or water. Then Rukshana has Johns baby who turns out to be a boss inquisitor or something. I see what you're planning Abnett. Trying to steal my money again eh? Except that she can't have kids. She's an old Uxor...Life always finds a way. Oh my god !!! Vulkan has dinosaur genes !!! (Or Toad as I remember ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 West African tree frog, in point of fact. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 From some bits I can discern it looks like the old fluff about Dorn and Alpharius conflict is still in there. Apparently the Emperor had to get personally involved Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288871-al-fluff-from-book-3/page/7/#findComment-3643279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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