Castrmen Orth Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I know the alphas have that cool ability to steal another armies unit and use it as elite. However a rumour I read says no independent character or unique units. What does unique unit mean, death shroud or red butchers etc And if so what is point of the rule Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I second the question regarding “unique” units (you are correct that the rule does in fact state that with “unique” as the wording). My guess is that “unique” units are the terminator armoured ones, while the rest (which are mentioned in the Legion’s general info below their legion rules) are available to be chosen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Wrong rule, never mind me *whistles and walks away* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Yeah isn't that a different rule though? The rule I am talking of has no dice roll Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 That might be true. Had not heard that they had a rule like that. Edit: just found it. Never mind my original reply :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Thats not the rule we are asking about, Lucian. Thats the Alpharius rule, what we are asking is under Rewards of Treachery, rite of war boon, which allows the Legion to take one unit “specifically allowed only to another legion (note that this does not include independent characters or unique units)”. Edit: ninja’d by Lucian, plus I sounded a bit uptight on my part, but I don’t have the mind to reword my first line. Edit 2: I think I figured it out; are the terminator units “0-1” only? If so then those are the ‘unique” units, and the rest (Reavers, Palatine Blades) are up for grabs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Yes, unique means units that are 0-1 allowance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Ah right so you can only have one unit of gorgons Tec Are kakophoni and night raptors allowed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemujinZero Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 What do we think are the best candidates, in terms of overall effectiveness and synergy with the Alpha Legion trait? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Yes, unique means units that are 0-1 allowance. Also any unit that has the word unique in it's unit type so no Ancient Rylanor. Ah right so you can only have one unit of gorgons Tec Are kakophoni and night raptors allowed Gorgon Terminators are not 0-1 or unique, neither are Kakophoni or Night Raptors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Maybe fire off an email to fw, they get back fairly quickly. I would like to know the answer myself although im thinking of running the pride of the legion rite of war. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 If you steal a unit are you expected to convert them to Alpha Legion, and painted as AL, or should they remain their standard legion models and paint scheme? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Gotta stay normal colours to show that alphas have nicked them from parent legions. So which termies are 0-1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Pretty much all the terminator bodyguard formations are 0-1 by memory, so stick to power armour steals and you'll be fine. As for what's the best, really consider the for that the very same stolen units benefit from the global AL trait that you chose for your force (or everything if taken alongside alphapapa). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 What do we think are the best candidates, in terms of overall effectiveness and synergy with the Alpha Legion trait? Grave Wardens. Or maybe the IW super termies, because cyclone missiles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Night raptors maybe for punchy threat. Maybe something more tougher like medusan immortals or the fist breacher marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The fist breachers wiuld be interesting. For painting I would add subtle symbols like hydras. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 . Yes, unique means units that are 0-1 allowance. Is that, "Yes, I checked with a FW guy" or "Yes, I agree"? I only ask as 'Unique' is a specific unit type used for some units (not 0-1). In fact where are people getting 0-1 for any of the legion specific units? I've just looked through Betrayal and Massacre and none of them have 0-1 (only artillery squadron) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Pretty much all the terminator bodyguard formations are 0-1 by memory, so stick to power armour steals and you'll be fine. Sorry Kais, they aren't. Justaerin, Deathshroud and Firedrakes are elites and can also be taken instead of a command squad. Phoenix and Gorgon are just elites. None are unique or 0-1. So with the first three you could have up to seven squads and four squads with the last two. Obviously that is with the Battles in the Age of Darkness force organisation and no RoW. Edit: The above number of squads is in relation to the parent legion and not the Alphas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I saw the thread title snd saw les dennis and family fortuned, alpharius family vs guilleman family. I'll leave now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I'd figure that "Unique Units" refers to Special Characters which are not Independent Characters (Dreadnoughts and Vehicle Pilots, for instance). Those usually have "Unique" somewhere in their profile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Only things that are Unique are characters. So... the sky is the limit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 But what characters aren't Independent Characters though, it's that extra word "unique" that throws me off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Rylanor. Only one so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Rylanor. Only one so far. See post 10 And just realised, forgot Cassian Dracos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288940-alphas-unit-steal/#findComment-3640384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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