Iron Warrior info from book 3?

[Marshal Rohr]

I'm no geologist, so bear with me. If you removed all water from the earth, it kills the grass, causing dust bowls, etc. BUT, things like mountains don't just wear down even after 30,000 years. You could have something like the Yellowstone Supervolcano erupt or something, but barring major geological catastrophes, geography just gets duller in definition over time, it doesn't get erased. So you can look at a picture of earth with no water and still know where things are.

[Kol Saresk]

I'm no geologist, so bear with me. If you removed all water from the earth, it kills the grass, causing dust bowls, etc. BUT, things like mountains don't just wear down even after 30,000 years. You could have something like the Yellowstone Supervolcano erupt or something, but barring major geological catastrophes, geography just gets duller in definition over time, it doesn't get erased. So you can look at a picture of earth with no water and still know where things are.

Actually the mountains would get taller due to tectonic forces. Although the difference would be so minimal it wouldn't be worth noting.

[Nehekhare]

well as a european I can say from historic evidence that one an empires importance fades, only it's culture remains, so regarding merica... ;)

[Rune Priest Ridcully]

And as an archaeologist I can tell you of just how limited the sources from those cultures can be, for instance if the rembrancers of 30k based their knowledge of our culture on nothing more then fragments of Shakespear, aSoFaI, a few text books from the sciences and an excavation of Soho, they would have about the same knowledge we have of some prehistoric cultures and societies.
Also, the Tigris bed shifts around a lot, so who knows where it will be in 30k.

[Hydriatus]

Here is a link to the changing planet Earth as water level falls. Not gonna lie, it's looking kinda cool...(Just replace Netherlands with the word Imperial and we're pretty much sorted...)

 

http://what-if.xkcd.com/53/

[Brother Captain Lucian]

Just curious as it was shortly mentioned in the IF background thread.

 

How does the battle of paramar play out?

[Kol Saresk]

Just curious as it was shortly mentioned in the IF background thread.

 

How does the battle of paramar play out?

The first battle plays out with the Alpha Legion going blitzkrieg the system with one ship attacking Paramar itself while four other ships attacked the space station elsewhere in the system. The attack on the space station went off without a hitch.

 

But because the 77th Grand Company was in orbit around Paramar when the lone ship attacked, the bombardment of the planet failed and the small fleet destroyed the lone ship.

 

So from there, a fleet in the hundreds of Alpha Legion, Mechanicum and Titan ships rushed forthe planet and began landing troops.

 

Suffice to say, despite heavy losses, the superior number of the Traitors won out and they captured a very important shipyard and munitions depot for use by the Traitors.

[Kais Klip]

The alpha legion just… blitzkriegs the depot? No spontaneous promethium combustions, Mechanicum leadership degradation and malfunctions or never-before-noted war machines? 

 

Just… “forward”?

 

At least any noteworthy Iron Warrior shenanigans? 

[Kol Saresk]

IIRC, most of that went into the spaceport since it could hold off an entire fleet and they went after it with only four ships. There was also the fact that it was a race against time since Paramar had yet to hear about the Dropsite Massacre so it was at its lowest in terms of security.

[Brother Captain Lucian]

I thought that paramar was supposed to be the first loyalist victory? Guess I heard wrong

[Emperor's Furor]

Perhaps you're thinking of the Second battle of Paramar.

[Kol Saresk]

No. Or at least the first battle of Paramar wasn't. There are still two more battles with one being only a few years later and then the third being part of the Scouring.

[Brother Captain Lucian]

WoT - that is properly true.

[Sevatar]

The Alpha Legion go under a false flag, and kill many Magos. The Iron Warriors happen to appear, and fight against the Alpha Legion. They eventually retreat after causing high casualties amongst the Alpha Legion.

[Conn Eremon]

Interestingly, the Iron Warriors appear before the actual attack starts.

 

The Iron Warrior response to the attack at Paramar was hard :cuss ing core. Nothing is more bad :cuss in void war than ramming speed.

[Kol Saresk]

Interestingly, the Iron Warriors appear before the actual attack starts.

 

The Iron Warrior response to the attack at Paramar was hard :cuss ing core. Nothing is more bad :cuss in void war than ramming speed.

Don't forget he threw the nav-officer out of the way and he did it with no sensors.

[Perrin]

Is this just in the FW books? Would be awesome to have a proper HH novel about it.

[Conn Eremon]

Yep. About ten pages detailing the Alpha Legion's careful plans, how the sudden appearance of the Iron Warriors eff it up, how the Alpha Legion wreck it anyways, and how pissed off the Warmaster was because the Alphas straight ditched the place the instant the battle was "won."

[Scribe]

Something of note, is that both Perturabo and Angron have a sense of kinship it seems at least in part because both view the lives of their sons as expendable resources, and that things like heroism, and glory, are worthless in the final measure.

 

I approve.

[Hyaenidae]

Grumpy Old Men 3: Death to the False Emperor.

[Kazak1920]

So, the loyalist Iron Warriors from Paramar retreated and survived? I hope so, there are so little loyalists from traitor legions that any losses among them really pisses mi off...

[Wade Garrett]

So, the loyalist Iron Warriors from Paramar retreated and survived? I hope so, there are so little loyalists from traitor legions that any losses among them really pisses mi off...

Yes. So few loyalists in the Traitor Legions...aside from Loken, Garro, Saul Tarvitz, Warsmith Dantioch, Skraal, Crysos Mortug, Narek....I have a question.

 

Besides Erebus, Abaddon, Khârn, Typhon and Lucius, was anybody in the Traitor Legions actually a traitor? Or were they to a man misunderstood tragic heroes who stood like mighty sequoias against the winds of heresy?

[Kol Saresk]

 

 

So, the loyalist Iron Warriors from Paramar retreated and survived? I hope so, there are so little loyalists from traitor legions that any losses among them really pisses mi off...

Yes. So few loyalists in the Traitor Legions...aside from Loken, Garro, Saul Tarvitz, Warsmith Dantioch, Skraal, Crysos Mortug, Narek....I have a question.

 

Besides Erebus, Abaddon, Khârn, Typhon and Lucius, was anybody in the Traitor Legions actually a traitor? Or were they to a man misunderstood tragic heroes who stood like mighty sequoias against the winds of heresy?

Argel Tal. But he was a misunderstood tragic villain who stood look a mighty sequoia for the winds of Heresy until Erebus stabbed him in the back.

[Nehekhare]

So, the loyalist Iron Warriors from Paramar retreated and survived?

 

Actually, they pulled back inside the terminus and held out there until the attackers left the planet.

[depthcharge12]

 

 

 

So, the loyalist Iron Warriors from Paramar retreated and survived? I hope so, there are so little loyalists from traitor legions that any losses among them really pisses mi off...

Yes. So few loyalists in the Traitor Legions...aside from Loken, Garro, Saul Tarvitz, Warsmith Dantioch, Skraal, Crysos Mortug, Narek....I have a question.

Besides Erebus, Abaddon, Khârn, Typhon and Lucius, was anybody in the Traitor Legions actually a traitor? Or were they to a man misunderstood tragic heroes who stood like mighty sequoias against the winds of heresy?

Argel Tal. But he was a misunderstood tragic villain who stood look a mighty sequoia for the winds of Heresy until Erebus stabbed him in the back.

 

He cut down that mighty redwood with a herring.

 

T'was tragic