Nrthstar Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Haven't ran the wolves since 5th, but I was facing so many deepstriking grey knights and daemons, I built two squads of long fangs. One with 3x ML, 2x LC and another 3x Heavy Bolter and 2x Plasma canon. It works great because my opponents always rushed toward the ML/LC squad and the second squad was there to mop them up in their tight little deep strike blob. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3647612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon950 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 That is usually what I do, have a squad that is built to kill infantry and another squad to kill vehicles. Usually will run an extra las-cannon in the heavy bolter/plasma cannon squad in case that squad needs to deal with something outside of infantry. Then I put the anti-infantry squad in a razorback with assault cannons and drive them around to mow down anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3647655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Then I put the anti-infantry squad in a razorback with assault cannons and drive them around to mow down anything.how do you deal with the fact that the heavy bolters can only fire snap shots on the turn they exit the razorback and plasma cannons cannot shoot at all? Wouldn't 6 grey hunters in a razorback be cheaper if you only wanted to use the assault cannons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3647660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 The Multi-melta is from my standpoint a waste, I ran one for over a year and it never killed anything. It just did not have the range to kill anything and was usually picked off before anything got close. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3649514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Interestingly enough the space wolves player in the top 16 at adepticon was using a full Logan bomb in his Logan wing list, so it seems to work for someone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3649530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 The Multi-melta is from my standpoint a waste, I ran one for over a year and it never killed anything. It just did not have the range to kill anything and was usually picked off before anything got close. It has been my position for very many years that Multi-meltas are largely a waste on immobile platforms (like Long Fangs). The 12" effective range (for the actual anti-tank armour penetration bonus) is far too short to bring to bare without mobility. They are terrific weapons on mobile platforms like Assault Bikes and Land Raiders, or even Dreadnoughts deploying by by Drop Pod, but I would never dream of bothering to put a weapon like that on a stationary unit. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3649594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I couldn't agree more Valerian. I do have to admit I like to put plasma's on Dreads and Land Raiders. "You rolled a one. Your PC blows up." "Not so fast bub, Dreads and Tanks are immune to that. Just loses the shot." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3649641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Not any more, in 6th vehicles take a glancing hit on a 4+ if they roll a 1 for a gets hot weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3649667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Interestingly enough the space wolves player in the top 16 at adepticon was using a full Logan bomb in his Logan wing list, so it seems to work for someoneWhat's a Logan Bomb? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3649669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Logan and Long Fangs in a Drop Pod- makem relentless, and then pop out and split fire into some juicy targets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3649716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Sorry for the colloquialism as grey mage said it's Logan and long fangs in a pod, in this specific case they are all wielding multimeltas and the Sargeant has a melt gun. I've been tempted to give this a go... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3649738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a pair of javelin attack speeders for my redmaw great company. Multi melts and CML (or TLLC) with outflank? Fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3650261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I know it doesn't have the longest range, but I really liked playing with two dedicated Long Fang packs. One long range one short, in the short I have 3 heavy bolters supported by 2 plasma cannons. It doesn't have the 48" stretch of MLs or LCs, but I find that outfit to be very destructive and versatile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3653019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a pair of javelin attack speeders for my redmaw great company. Multi melts and CML (or TLLC) with outflank? Fun! I like the experimental rules and options, but not the model itself, or model cost. Love their Tempest model, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3653076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If you fight a lot of armies with Feel no pain, Missile lchrs inflict more instant death. However, plasma does better if you're fighting terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289057-long-fangs-plasma-or-lasma/page/2/#findComment-3659030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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