Custodian Athiair Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Hi all, very simple question which I hope will be answered quickly. At the time of the Horus Heresy rule-set detailed by our great friends at Forge World, what colours are the Alpha Legion running around in? Are they still in their "purple" (which I never fully understood what it looked like), or have their turned to hydra scale blue/green? Will be very helpful, seeing as currently they are the legion I am most likely to collect if I ever have the cojones to dive into a Horus Heresy army. Just hope they get a view cool things in the mean time. Thanks in advance wise forum friends Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincec79 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Well only going by the teaser images until Extermination gets its full release in May the armour looks to be a metallic blue http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Cyberus79/2df87100b826f7324bc946a900baf038_zpsed3ccc06.jpg There also appears to possibly be a much darker variant almost black, which some have speculated as being the Effrit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3651649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Okay firstly, thanks for the instant reply. I much prefer the blue colour personally - also I don't know how to do the other colour. But secondly black sounds epic, however the Effrit??!?!? I'm lost, I thought I knew the important things about the Alpha's, it seems I'm a disgrace. Please enlighten me? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3651650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincec79 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Yer I much prefer the metallic blue, I was actually going to have a play this week mixing a Vallejo Sick Blue with metal medium to see how it turns out for a base. As far as the Effrit goes think special ops units, copied from the WH40K wiki entry; The Effrit Stealth Squad was a specialised infiltration unit within the ranks of the Alpha Legion that operated during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras during the late 30th and early 31st Millennia. This elite force was formed from those Legionaries that specialised in infiltration, stealth, sabotage and assassination. These operatives were chosen for their adaptive thinking as well as their ability to improvise. The Effrit Stealth Squad was akin to the Legion Seeker Squads found within some of the Space Marine Legions, whose principal task on the battlefield was to identify an enemy's command structure, and slay these officers with a well-placed bolt round while the chaos of battle raged around them. The Alpha Legion are said to have been the first of the Legions to have developed this tactic and squad configuration, although its use sat poorly within the more honourable combat doctrine of some of the Legions like the Space Wolves. The Effrit Stealth Squad was personally led by Omegon, one of the twin-Primarchs of the Alpha Legion. Little else is known of this elite formation, as the Alpha Legion was notorious for the obfuscation and secrecy that surrounded the internal workings of their mysterious Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3651654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 The Effrit Stealth Squad was a specialised infiltration unit within the ranks of the Alpha Legion that operated during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras during the late 30th and early 31st Millennia. This elite force was formed from those Legionaries that specialised in infiltration, stealth, sabotage and assassination. These operatives were chosen for their adaptive thinking as well as their ability to improvise. The Effrit Stealth Squad was akin to the Legion Seeker Squads found within some of the Space Marine Legions, whose principal task on the battlefield was to identify an enemy's command structure, and slay these officers with a well-placed bolt round while the chaos of battle raged around them. The Alpha Legion are said to have been the first of the Legions to have developed this tactic and squad configuration, although its use sat poorly within the more honourable combat doctrine of some of the Legions like the Space Wolves. The Effrit Stealth Squad was personally led by Omegon, one of the twin-Primarchs of the Alpha Legion. Little else is known of this elite formation, as the Alpha Legion was notorious for the obfuscation and secrecy that surrounded the internal workings of their mysterious Legion. Awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3651670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristeo Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Vallejo Sick Blue is a closer match to the Pre-Heresy colour scheme, like a dark indigo. I use it on my Alpha Legion and depending on the light it can either look blue or kind of purple to the eye, but it doesn't look like the blue in the picture above from HH book 3 Extermination. That's closer to turquoise. Edit: Here's a couple pictures of Sick Blue in different lights: http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a482/aristeo66/002_zps53f4ca44.jpghttp://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a482/aristeo66/IMAG0911_zps7b88d742.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3651746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroCampbell Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Any idea what GW colours that AL would be? or Vallejo? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3651886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Best bet is to email FW and ask them, they've provided the schemes for other legions like that. And they use a broad range to achieve the shades Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincec79 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The Vallejo Sick blue has supposedly been renamed to Dark Blue so always new it would be a dark colour but as said I'm going to try mixing it with metal medium which should lighten the colour and also give it the metallic sheen. Personally I wouldn't say the new colour scheme from the artwork looks turquoise at all, maybe that's just me. Be interesting to what FW come out with as their colour scheme and see a few of their painted bits Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 1 / 1 ALPHA LEGION 1. AIRBRUSH WITH THINNED LEAD BELCHER/ IRON BREAKER (50/50 MIX) 2. AIRBRUSH FROM TOP OF MODEL WITH THINNED RUNFANG STEEL 3. MIX A LITTLE TAMIYA CLEAR GREEN WITH TAMIYA CLEAR BLUE (25/75 MIX) AND AIRBRUSH OVER THE MODEL IN 2 COATS 4. AIRBRUSH ARMOUR PANELS WITH TAMIYA CLEAR BLUE. BLENDING FROM MIDDLE OF FIGURE DOWN, SO THE STRONGEST BLUE COLOUR IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PANNELS 5. AIRBRUSH FROM THE MIDDLE UPWARDS WITH TAMIYA CLEAR GREEN 6. USING AN AIRBRUSH BLEND A HIGHLIGHT ON THE HIGHEST PANNELS (HEAD, SHOULDER PADS, TOP OF BACKPACK) WITH RUNEFANG STEEL WITH A TINY AMOUNT OF LOTHERN BLUE, EXTREMELY THINNED DOWN. 7. APPLY THINNED COAT OF TAMIYA CLEAR BLUE OVER THE HIGHLIGHT AND BLEND INTO THE SURROUNDING AREA. 8. USING A BLUE GLAZE, DRAG DOWN THE WHOLE MODEL ALLOWING IT TO SETTLE IN THE DEEPEST AREAS. 9. SILVER – BASECOAT WITH LEADBELCHER 10. WASH WITH NULN OIL 11. HIGHLIGHT WITH LEADBELCHER IN STRIKING MOTIONS TO CREATED CHIPPED AND WEATHER APPEARANCE 12. HIGHLIGHT WITH IRONBREAKER Apparently someone already asked them from this thread. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?379305-FW-s-version-of-Alpha-Legion Seems like way too much work to me. Seems like ctrl c brought this weird black background sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 Is there a photo which shows how that scheme comes out? Because if it looks akin to this scheme: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/Blogs/201WSEG3_135256B11.jpg Then I'll pass, I prefer the Alpha's being a much darker blue/indigo instead of Caribbean Sea colour. Then akin black armoured stealth troops lead by "Omegon" sounds amazing :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemujinZero Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The FW scheme looks like this. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/legion-tartp1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristeo Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Those terminators look great but that paint recipe is a beast and to look at them, you can't really appreciate all the work that was put into them. I've seen some great looking models just using GW Sotek Green or Vallejo Falcon Turquoise as a base color. You could potentially use those with the metallic medium and either a blue or black wash. Edit: yeah every bottle of Vallejo Sick Blue I've gotten is labeled Azul Oscuro. It's a match to the very old Citadel Nauseating Blue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I've painted up some Alpha Legionnaire test models, as I do intend on eventually running a small force. I primed them black, did a heavy drybrush of Runefang Silver, then using Vallejo Clear Blue I did a light wash over the entire model. From there, I built up more Clear Blue wash on the lower 25% of each piece of armor, while I used a thinned wash of Vallejo Clear Green on the upper 75%. From there, you go back and forth between the two until you get a nice iridescent effect, it's simple and it looks really really good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincec79 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Honestly not that impressed by the "official" scheme of the Speeder, definitely more of an turquoise, and seems to have little in common with the artwork. The terminators look a bit better, but still not sure on them. I might try doing an old rhino half and half, with one side sick blue lightened with metal medium and the other with the FW colours Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molokai Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The models shown in the fw blog are not by the fw team. They are by a random gamer/modeller. You can see his work over on heresy 30k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289513-alpha-legion-colours/#findComment-3652536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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