cescobig Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Hello brothers, Ive been toying with a idea of making a lord riding a helldrake... Now wondering how to make it viable.... as im a newb gamer im not sure how to score it etc... like could it be a lord with a demonic steed, not sure how to work it out but i figure with the helldrakes pose it looks like it should be ridden, Either way the idea of a lord zooming round the field on the back of a helldrake is exciting. What does everyone think....any advice muchly appreciated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Add 170pts to your lord, helldrake becomes chariot type. Cannot attack in combat unless in hover mode. Pretty self-balancing, I'd say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3653383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 You could use it as a pseudo-surf board... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3653418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cescobig Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Cheers yeah i might have to think up some fluff/rule for it, i think it might just have to be getting ridden and use as a straight helldrake, but would really like to find the way to use em both really Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3653449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Give the lord a disk of tzeentch, fly him around next to the drake. Or disk + burning brand is a small flying thing that shoots fire. Pseudo drake? Or use DP rules to represent the combined model of PA dude on top of smaller mechanical dragon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3653473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Disciple Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I think Xenith hit the nail on the head with the disk and brand. Can't wait to see how it looks when you get him built. Also I may now have to buy a Blood Throne so I can have a Bloodletter riding a drake....my wallet demands vengeance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3653496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Modeling wise I know I've seen someone use the Fantasy Lord on Manticore model to make the rider, than gave him a fancy flamer, to count-as the Baleflamer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3653535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Drake Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Use the Terrorgheist model. But, yeah - Disc and Burning Brand is way cheaper/better! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3654012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cescobig Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Yeah cheers for the input guys very helpful, i surely will post it up once donen yes i did see the chaos night riding the manticore which is where i got the idea, and although i have seen peoples thoughts on its pose, i think it will look quite suited to carrying a rider. Plus i hadnt thought of a dp on it so i will suss that option out too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3654174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I would just use it as a Heldrake. Those Swoop attacks are mean enough that they could represent your Lord, and just give your Lord a big flamer and have that count-as the baleflamer.That thing is huge, and I mean, my Lord on Jetbike with an underslung flamer 'count-as' a Lord on Disc. Having the drake count-as a Disc is a bit like mounting your lord on the roof of a Rhino and saying the rhino count-as a bike. The size is so off it can seriously affect game-play. Also, to be honest. What difference would a lone marine riding on top of the dragon-with-jet-engines soaring high up in the sky do to the battle? It's not like you would ever go into hover move, which means he will just be holding on for dear life for the entirety of the battle anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3654577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Homebrew or make it collectors piece only. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3655635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Homebrew or make it collectors piece only. I mostly agree with this. If you try too hard to wedge it into existing rules there is the distinct possibilty of ending up with something unsatisfying your original inspiration and confusing anybody you play against. I would stick a rider on a Heldrake (or similar winged beast of appeoximate size) and call it a Heldrake, or make a wholly new model with no regard for the game and keep it as a display piece, maybe giving it rules for experimental/casual play. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3655952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cescobig Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Thanks for your imput guys, well might keep it as a helldrake and maybe give extra swoop attack to entact a lord plummeting down, I can envision a lord riding a helldrake to monitor the troops advance of the line etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3656815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 You could also pay the 50 points for the Fighter Ace, and say the rider represents this. Daemonforge every turn instead of once per game, IIRC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289603-lord-on-helldrake-how-to-make-it-work/#findComment-3657236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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