Sadistic Imp Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm building an ally of Raven Guard and I wanted your opinion on how this looks? I am trying to achieve black armor. I am undecided on this or just using grey highlights. http://i60.tinypic.com/vwsoet.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I think the highlights are too strong personally. I think the colours are better than straight grey, but just too much. Maybe only use the brightest colour on the very top of the knees, neck, pads and back pack. Maybe a couple of glazes of black and blue would help tone it back a little. I definitely think the legs look more blue/grey than black because of the strength of the highlights under the knees and on the feet. *edit* stupid phone and it's 'predictive' text... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3654674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I also think that some/a black or blue wash(es) to darken it are in order. Good, steady brushwork though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3654733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 At this distance, yes, the highlights look strong, but from across the table? Your force will look sweet. Same deal as GWs Dark Angels, the highlights are really in your face , until your 3-4 feet away. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3654826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 At this distance, yes, the highlights look strong, but from across the table? Your force will look sweet. Same deal as GWs Dark Angels, the highlights are really in your face , until your 3-4 feet away. Cheers, Jono Agree. Don't change a thing. The cold black is a very strong look on the table top. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3654867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Looks good. Little bold up close but would stand out well on a table top. If you do want to tone it down a bit try a black glaze rather than a wash. Basically thin your black wash with water or medium (b1/w2) and brush it over more like paint rather than slap it on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3654968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadistic Imp Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 Wow thanks guys. I'll give this a go. If it doesn't work, I'll return to using a flat grey for highlights, Heh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3655157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Wow thanks guys. I'll give this a go. If it doesn't work, I'll return to using a flat grey for highlights, Heh. No. Dont use flat grey as it sucks the life out of the black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3655191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadistic Imp Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 I am having real issues figuring out what to do. I've got the model black.. should I use a codex grey to highlight or do a brighter highlight of astrominan grey? Heh. It's hard one to figure out. I want the model to look somewhat nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3655271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Start with an off black as the base. I usually do black and hawk turquoise (don't know the current colour) as the base as it can be shaded and adding space wolf grey for highlights is less harsh than just grey. You can ali's glaze with other colours to add more interest into the colour of the armour. Longer process but I think it looks better and it's the only way I've been able to paint black and be happy with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3655307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hummm... I think you've got great taste, but I'm a bit bias, Black is something close to my heart. As others have expressed, if you overdo the highlights a little bit like you have, it looks very nice at the 1m+ range most people will be viewing the army from. Up closer it's a bit strong, but at range it really adds the (in my opinion) necessary 'pop' to the Black while letting the surfaces stay true Black. I went with a Blue-Black by starting with what has become Fenrisian Grey and Russ Grey, but those are much closer in contrast than the old Shadow Grey and Spacewolves Grey, if memory serves me correctly. To have more control over the 'steps' in the highlights, you may want to consider mixing your own highlight pots. Get 4 bottles, two dark and two light. One of the dark bottles you will darken waaaay down with Black (a little Black goes a long way, so be careful) to get a charcoal-like Grey as a base Grey 1. Leave the second dark bottle as-is for Grey 2, but use some of it (and any poured off the first bottle to make room for black) to darken one of the lighter bottles for Grey 3, and leave the other lighter bottle for Grey 4. Tweak the final line to taste and you'll get a nice 4 step range that looks great from table viewing distance; even up close it holds up if you do it cleanly. I've got a bit of a more in depth tutorial about my method buried somewhere in my WIP thread Legion Rising. Feel free to have a look and ask for any clarification you might need. Classes are all but finished for the year, so the warp storms are clearing from my dark manucatorium; I'll be talking and working more shop over the coming months. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3655403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Son of Sanguinius Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I may be in the minority on this. I find your model to be striking. The colors from across the table will look fantastic together in my opinion, I would be amazed to play against that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289663-opinion-on-this-black/#findComment-3658407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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