Cor3y Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I would love (and I'm sure the same applies to all the newcomers to the forums and the BA) to have a pinned topic with a recap of strategies and related unit choices for the Blood Angels with this codex... that would require that one (or more than one) of the "senior" BA players would compile such a list... As for other games, such a reference topic would be a good place for newcomers to understand the 'slang' and the basic concepts around topics like 'null deployment lists', 'BA mech', 'mech hybrid' or others. (Example of obscure slang for me: Dakka, or Dakka Baal) It is confusing for people like me, even if I get the main point in the slang, but because I did not play any other style if not 'full jump' a few editions ago, and now a somewhat 'mech' play... just as a reference, I would highly appreciate something structured that has: explanation of slang, example list (1500-1750), basic strats, strong-points/weak-points analysis and a description of the role that the various units have in the strats. I realize that It could be time consuming, therefore I propose a 'community approach', where the people that play a specific list draft the paragraphs for their play style. I found some interesting topics on Mephiston, Corbulo and the Predator Baal, but nothing that addresses general structures of lists (apart from the excellent DoA post in the BA Resources Thread) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Dakka is the Ork word for solid-projectile firepower. Dakka Baal is a Baal Predator with assault canon turrets and heavy bolter side sponsons. And I approve of your idea, though I won't really be able to help much as I'm not at all a BA player. I'm sure others will be along though to help you out and perhaps even join your mini project :) I'd suggest you try PM'ing Morticon, who (if he has the time) would surely be quite delighted to help and who has invaluable experience as a BA tournament go-er :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3655889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor3y Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Thanks!!! I'll send him a PM as soon as I get back in the office!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3656013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Feel free to start putting something together, and then we can se how the community can add as we get on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3656042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I think this is a brilliant idea. Would really like to see this pan out. I play a hybrid build mostly, if you would like I am willing to share my thoughts on that style of list, just pm me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3656138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is a good idea, but the problem with these types of posts is everyone has their own opinions and threads like this typically end up as a list of contradicting information which is less helpful and more confusing to new players. Not saying we shouldn't give it a go though... For a start, I'd take a look at K&Fs thread on Competitive Essentials for BAs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3656456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I love the idea. I used to feel like I had a pretty good grasp on effective BA tactics, but not so much any more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3656469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianj253 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 We should just pin every thread started by Citadel Army Guy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3656717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'm happy to help. I've been having a lot of success with a shooty BA list recently, so I'm happy to pitch in on that score. I also started a tactica on MSU Blood Angels a few months ago but that fell by the wayside a bit, could link it across though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3656731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 We should just pin every thread started by Citadel Army Guy. +1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3657060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Yes, he wrote good stuff accessible for beginners. We could make a pinned general tactica and glossary thread, the key word being general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3657075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor3y Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Well, finally i'm back and i'll make a mokup of my idea... if someone is interested in adding content, and if we manage to do something usefull, i'll propose to put it in a new topic... My personal main problem with the Blood Angels Resources post, is that it's not categorized, and some of the posts are not reachable anymore... I'll write down a backbone schema of my idea, please correct me and help me fill in the blanks. The description of the single units are just an example. Everything needs refinements because i'm not an expert player... Blood Angels Primer Main Strategies: DoA lists Null Deployment Drop Pods / Heavy Drop Pods Mech Play -- Add Stuff Here. Would need some help and advice by some more experienced player DoA Related Topics Descent of Angels/Deep Strike Army - Tips & Tricks DanteWing Tactica ... General Concepts A DoA list concentrates on the "Descent of Angels" rule. Unfortunatelly in 6th, we can only deploy in reserve 50% of the units, therefore an all-in version of this strat is not viable anymore. In the 6th edition, a DoA list could be seen as basically a list that relies heavilly in Jump Pack troops and uses key Deep Striking units. Example Army List (to be filled in) Key Units and Roles: Backbone Sanguinary Priests / CorbuloA force with a relatively high body count, heavily relies on FnP boubbles to increse the survivability of the high costing marinesbefore they get in combat Assault MarinesThe backbone of the force Death Company5-WS, 5-A and S-5 in charge is really strong. Unfortunatelly the Death Company is costly, and with Jump Packs even more.Lists that play them, often puts them in a Drop Pod, buy i still prefer a Storm Raven Vanguard VeteransHeroic Intervention Anyone? Sanguinary GuardFlying terminators, really expensive unfortunatelly Key Units and Roles: Tank Killers Sternguard Veteran SquadI've seen 10 sternguard in a droppod with a sanguinary priest, combat squadded in 2 squad with 5 combi-melta and 5 combi-flamer to really bring havoc turn 1 to the enemy lines... Really costly, requires at least another podded unit as support, or these 385 points will just vanish turn 2 Assault MarinesWith a double melta option, they can provide some close range firepower in the 3-5th turn range Furioso DreadnoughtIn pod, it gives a nice close-range meltagun in addition of the omnipresent threat of a dreadnought in the middle of the opponent's lines Key Units and Roles: Infantry Havoc Sternguard Veteran Squad Furioso Dreadnought Death Company Dreadnought Death Company Null Deployment Related Topics ...General Concepts (to be filled in) Example Army List (to be filled in) Key Units and Roles (to be filled in) Mech Play Related Topics ...General Concepts (to be filled in) Example Army List (to be filled in) Key Units and Roles (to be filled in) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3660336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Should also probably point out that we can also play a pretty mean gunline too. Devs and tac marines or un-packed assault marines in cover and backed up by priests and lib with prescience can kick out a lot of hurt and really take some shifting. Baals and vindicators or attack bikes can then run interference on anything which needs to die or is trying to shelter in cover from the main line for example. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3661402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor3y Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hi Leonaides! if you want, write a "strat-recap" and i'll add it to the post. I'll work this week end on a "mech" description Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289701-proposal-a-blood-angels-primer-strategies-recap/#findComment-3663583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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