Guns guns guns and guns

[deathspectersgt7]

 

 

I wonder if the legions are members of the NRA.

[Quixus]

The first batch was salvaged from Mars by the Imperial Fists and gifted to the Raven Guard, so it was thought to be only in use by the Raven Guard and later the loyalists on Terra. We now know that all legions potentially have access to prototypes, and the Alpha Legion can manufacture their own.

But can't the Imperium make new batches between the gifting and the Siege of Terra?

[Hyaenidae]

Most of the Forge Worlds are in turmoil or under attack from one side or another, or have become totally insular and refuse to assist either side. Mars is basically lost.

 

The Legion forges are the best bet, but that's a touch shaky.

 

At the end of the day, though, I don't care. I'm gonna rock Mk VI as much as I'd like, lol. I love beakies.

[Plague Angel]

Obviously, people can make their models however they want and however they think look best, and Heresy armies are already expensive enough.

 

For things bigger than bolters, though, I dunno, doesn't using obviously future marks of things like plasma cannons or flamers sort of defeat part of the point? Is it really any different than guys running around in Mk VII armor?

[Hyaenidae]

Bolters and such are usually where I draw the line. There's far too much imagery to 40k in the Godwyn pattern bolter, and the heavy weapons utterly destroy that image.

 

Even the Mk VI armour I use is pretty rare, in comparison to the mass amounts of Mk II, III, IV, and V I use.

 

No doubt, this is a thematic setting, and caution needs to be balanced with ones wallet. 'Rare' is a word to be not only used when regarding 40k era equipment; one must also ensure to apply that word while they're building their army.

[Relict]

Rule of cool is the thought of the day.

 

The Godwyn-pattern bolter is as iconic to the 40K SMs as their Mark VII armor with the Aquila across the breastplate. 

 

Thanks to the HH novels, when I think of 30K SM, I think of Mark IV armor.

 

When building an army, I tend to follow the fluff. My WEs sport a mixed bag of Marks II, IV, and V armor. Their bolters are either Tigrus- or Phobos-pattern. It makes sense to have the older veterans in Crusade armor. It makes sense to have expendable assault troops clad in a mixed bag of Maximus and Heresy armor. 

[TemujinZero]

Mk VI armour production continued on Terra after the siege of Mars, so the Imperial Fists and later the Blood Angels and White Scars would have had a significant supply.  The Raven Guard got the first production batch and the bulk of the prototypes.  All legions got small numbers of prototypes.  The traitors came across a reasonable supply of prototypes carelessly discarded on Istvaan V.  The Alpha Legion were already building their own.

 

Basically their is no background reason to rule out Mk VI for any of the legions.

 

The Godwyn bolter doesn't particularly bother me.  I probably wouldn't even notice unless it was pointed out.  I confess ignorance as the the fluff for the bolter variants, but you could always wheel out the 'equipped with prototype weapons' if that was the only sticking point.  Don't get me wrong, the FW kits look much better, but if I were going to economise then bolters wouldn't be a bad place to do it.

 

Mk VII armour is something that I would only use very sparingly, even for legions that definitely had access to it like the Imperial Fists.

[Plague Angel]

Being a stickler is probably only important if you're playing a highly specific time-period anyways. ("Why did you equip that guy in Mk V? That wouldn't be delivered to the Night Lords until seventeen months after Isstvan III, and this campaign is set thirteen months after Isstvan III you noob.")

 

But hey, people wanting to recreate highly-specific engagements are out there, and every Forge World book is written in a way that actually caters to that and makes it easily doable. ("After this point, Angron loses Gorechild while Khârn now has it, so make the following adjustments...")

 

So it's up to each of us to decide to what extent our forces are tied to a specific campaign or if it's just "Heresy era."

[Emperor's Furor]

Yeah it's said though that the Alpha Legion had their own secret manufactories that also created a lot of the newer armour in secret.