fesojnaibaf Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Has anyone tried the Victory is Vengence rules from Extermination?I like the idea of it, its a nice twist on Kill Team and my group are thinking about trying it out, just for a bit of fun. We're all experienced players, but we are a bit worried we'd spend most of out time with our heads in the book..Just wondering if anyones tried it and what it was like to play Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Well, considering the book is not out for all but a few; I doubt you will get too much of a response for another weeks. Care to enlighten us as to the changes from Kill Team? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydriatus Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 You start off with 150 pts of character models - these can be sergeants or anyone who would counts as a character (Chosen Warriors for example). You only get up to three character's like this, and one is designated the Leader. He is your main character so to speak, the one who gets stat increases as the campaign continues (which are pretty much just a +1 to majority of stats, that's it.)Everything is bought on a one by one basis (so you don't buy a ten man tac squad, you buy one tac marine!). Best bit, is that you can mix and match Legions if you so wish. My group is already forming several bands - one is an Istvaan V survivor group, considering of a Raven Guard Recon Marine, a IH Techmarine and a Salamander Apothecary.Though there is a wound chart of sorts, there are no dead results, just debuffs. Debuffs which can be removed by taking on a penance objective in the next game - a special objective that if achieved (like killing an enemy in a challenge), removes the dishonor from your character. And those debuffs can stack so... Sorry for the ramble, haven't got the book on me at the moment (since I'm at work), but those are the highlights I remember. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Well, considering the book is not out for all but a few; I doubt you will get too much of a response for another weeks. Care to enlighten us as to the changes from Kill Team? Unless of course there are "other" means of getting it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFeeder Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It's also got an interesting campaign metagame that utilises resource management. At the end of a game you generate "supply points" which you can spend on "ammo", "personnel" and "armour" resources. Simply put, the more supply points you spend, the better the resource becomes. Conversely if you fail to spend over a certain number of supply points then the particular resource degrades (giving various penalties like difficult ammo rolls and movement restrictions depending on the resource). It looks like a really cool system and I'm itching to try it out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Soooooo, what you are saying is that this is Nercomunda for 30k?!?!?!?!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 played our first games this monday actually. pretty cool. be sure to have at least 2 mission objectives for every player per game (we had 1 rolled for both, 1 each drawn secretly), or you will have trouble paying your upkeeps. mechanicum units rock (castellax, ursarax, myrmidon destructors). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Soooooo, what you are saying is that this is Nercomunda for 30k?!?!?!?!? Given my slow painting record, this looks perfect for a few games in between. I might have a way to bring some friends into 30 k after all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clewz Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 sounds good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFeeder Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Soooooo, what you are saying is that this is Nercomunda for 30k?!?!?!?!? Insofar that it's basically a 30k skirmish ruleset. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3661924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Its great fun, weve had a few games and most of the group loved it, i suspect the others were just being grumpy it wasnt something else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3662003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesojnaibaf Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 I completely forgot people might not have it yet, FW weekender has spoiled me..so I also guess people havent seen the updates for the Crusade lists then?Well yeah its a fancy Kill Team basically..for 30k...but our man above has ust about covered it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3662165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It's a great system from what I can tell, and perfect for representing Shattered Legion war bands and small conflicts from other battles. Off the top of my head it is a great way to represent the Garro sub-plot, the Underworld War on Calth, and the Survivors of Isstvan III. I'm considering doing a Shattered Legion and Isstvan III loyalist force, to scratch the itch of wanting to do every legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289996-victory-is-vengence-book-3/#findComment-3662184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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