Arufel87 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I think that conscripts could be a real powerhouse in the new dex. Previously they were overpriced and suffered from lack of Leadership. Now they have dropped in points and have access to a priest for fearless. I actually think that for pure lasfire they could be more efficient than regular guardsmen. Here is my reasoning- Squad 1) 50 Conscripts, Priest, Primaris Squad 2) 30 Infantry, Priest, Primaris Both cost the same points. With re-rolls to hit the conscript squad is netting an average 28 hits while the regular infantry are achieving 22.5 at range 24". This becomes more apparent the more shots that the squads have for instance within rapid fire range it becomes 56 compared to 45 or even better with FRFSRF. My question is are these guys worth running en masse and sacrificing the special and heavy weapons of the regular infantry? I can see them being even more nasty with yarrick in the ranks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornywingythingy Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'm painting a shed load of white shields if that answers your question?! ;) Honestly they are good as a bubble wrap to another blob, with a priest, the guardsmen blob brings special and heavy weapons too which is a big plus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3662657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arufel87 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 I was considering just using conscripts and russes. The whiteshields can bubblewrap the tanks and the russes bring the heavy firepower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3662661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I was thinking about conscript too. I have 50 mini's I don't like that were "conscripts" . I was thinking about a way to field 3 full conscript blocs as well in my mounted infantry platoons. It's a tough call for me. I need more actual 28mm models to play conscripts. Mordians and Steel Legion aren't as large as Cadians. what to do.. But it would be a lot of fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3662691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arufel87 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 I like the idea of outnumbering a lot of horde armies... and the maths does seem to back up this approach. I guess it's only theory though and time will tell if blob guard can be a proper thing again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3662754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Uberwolve, you just saved the use of my excess mens too! I was wracking my brain trying to think of a reason to keep around the bunch of guardsmen I don't care for (got them 2nd hand), and now there it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3662757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Throw in an Ordo Xenos inquisitor with rad and psychothroke grenades and they can win combats quite well too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3662814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Uberwolve, you just saved the use of my excess mens too! I was wracking my brain trying to think of a reason to keep around the bunch of guardsmen I don't care for (got them 2nd hand), and now there it is. I started to think about looking for a bunch of second hand 2ed IG. Honestly the steel Legion are too weedy. Maybe they will become the con.... Na. can't do it! Although the "conscripts" bag is full of Steel Legion, but it's 50 in the same pose! Yuck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3662874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 They could be effective yes, but always beware the one trick pony as once everyone has seen it it tends to deflate. By bubble wrapping you're severely limiting what your options are as it won't be easy to move the squad around. Leave the cheap tricks to the cheap armies I say! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3662939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Creed and Kell could provide them with a LD 8 if you want some ordering done on them, imagin those 50 conscripts with re-rolls to hit and an extra shot, 150 shots are even better than 100. Doesnt even take in account the increased chance of having them outflank due to Creed trait greed (rhymes couldnt resist) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290058-conscript-squads-pure-win/#findComment-3663007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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