Emperor's Furor Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I want more battles from the Crusade! I want more stories that revolve around the relationships of the Primarch to put the actual heresy into context! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I wouldn't mind more Unification Wars stuff, personally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydriatus Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Unification stuff would be awesome indeed. Heck, a campaign for the Unification would be brilliant. The HH series has enough material as is to run a campaign as is already... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I want anything that involves death, destruction and the terror it breeds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I want anything that involves death, destruction and the terror it breeds. Then I recommend you just watch the news ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 More Unification and early Crusade would be great. The time before the Terran legions were filled with weak bloods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I want anything that involves death, destruction and the terror it breeds. Then I recommend you just watch the news ;) But that's biased political agenda! Not to mention depressing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'd love some Thunder Warrior centric stuff, but what about some Age of Apostasy? I know it's not as big as the HH, but is a bigger event then the Badab War Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I would love to see Unification Wars explored. And also to get more FW background fluff on the campaigns during the Great Crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'd love some Thunder Warrior centric stuff, but what about some Age of Apostasy? I know it's not as big as the HH, but is a bigger event then the Badab War Keep your xenos bro fisting outta this :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'd love for there to be Unification Wars campaigns Terran legions before the recovery of the Primarchs However, a Thunder Warriors army and techno-barbarian enemy armies would be most awesome. I doubt we're ever gonna get that though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The issue with Unification Wars stuff is that it's just not as iconic as the Horus Heresy. The primarchs aren't around, and the Legions aren't really the same Legions that everyone already knows, it's too niche. Not saying it couldn't be done well, just saying that a.) BL wants to appeal more to the "average 40k fan" and b.) They want to slowly move the overarching plot forward, not back Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 A Unification War's source book/campaign would sell I think, it wouldnt need to be a full range of models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The issue with Unification Wars stuff is that it's just not as iconic as the Horus Heresy. The primarchs aren't around, and the Legions aren't really the same Legions that everyone already knows, it's too niche. Not saying it couldn't be done well, just saying that a.) BL wants to appeal more to the "average 40k fan" and b.) They want to slowly move the overarching plot forward, not back Give it time for the madness and obsession to begin. The Unification Wars will be to the Horus Heresy, what the Horus Heresy was to the 41st Millennium for decades. A series of myths and legends of epic wars and climatic endings to entire civilizations, spoken of with awe by we who were not there. The FW team have the cash cow of the HH and the Scouring for now. It will end one day, though, and they'll begin looking for a new project. We just need to be there to point them in the right direction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Honestly I'm much more interested in the Great Crusade itself. When I read Horus Rising, it was like I was seeing the setting for the first time. The idea of humanity scattered across the galaxy and the Legions bringing them all into compliance... that was just so cool, and I'd never really given it much thought. One of my only problems with the Heresy craze isn't so much that it's a foregone conclusion, but more that since we all know it's destined it just happens immediately. If we had as much fluff about the Crusade when all the Primarchs were loyal as we do about the Heresy and its spiraling betrayals, I think both would complement and feel more tragic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I agree. I just like the Unification that much more. Cuz... well, Earth. Terra. Home. And a childhood obsession with Post-Apocalyptic movies and books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Forget the Great Crusade, give me the Scouring Era. I want to experience and read through the darkest time in the Imperium still teetering on the edge of distruction, where traitor and loyalist are scavanging like dogs for anything they can to murder one another in a fruitless war of annihilation. I want that desperation and despair the likes of which the Horus Heresy will never be able to completely experience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Forget the Great Crusade, give me the Scouring Era. I want to experience and read through the darkest time in the Imperium still teetering on the edge of distruction, where traitor and loyalist are scavanging like dogs for anything they can to murder one another in a fruitless war of annihilation. I want that desperation and despair the likes of which the Horus Heresy will never be able to completely experience. This. The Imperium is dead. Those who could revive it, for better or for worse, are dead. All that is left is to scramble over the corpse. But I would never be able to decide what I would most like to read. Thunder Regiments marching on the horrors that reigned over the many sovereign states of Old Earth. War Hounds marching, mercilessly clean of the Nails' bite. The sons of Ultramar, still unused to the wearing of colors that will last them millennia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Forget the Great Crusade, give me the Scouring Era. I want to experience and read through the darkest time in the Imperium still teetering on the edge of distruction, where traitor and loyalist are scavanging like dogs for anything they can to murder one another in a fruitless war of annihilation. I want that desperation and despair the likes of which the Horus Heresy will never be able to completely experience. This. The Imperium is dead. Those who could revive it, for better or for worse, are dead. All that is left is to scramble over the corpse. But I would never be able to decide what I would most like to read. Thunder Regiments marching on the horrors that reigned over the many sovereign states of Old Earth. War Hounds marching, mercilessly clean of the Nails' bite. The sons of Ultramar, still unused to the wearing of colors that will last them millennia. Heresy. Roboute Guilliman will lead the Imperium from the brink into another age of dominance. Until he cuts his neck shaving. You forget your history, brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Foolishness. Guilliman does what he can to prop up a dead state into a state of perpetual unlife, until a scratch prevented him from doing anything more than that. You mistake propaganda for history, brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 But I would never be able to decide what I would most like to read. Thunder Regiments marching on the horrors that reigned over the many sovereign states of Old Earth. War Hounds marching, mercilessly clean of the Nails' bite. The sons of Ultramar, still unused to the wearing of colors that will last them millennia. That's why I want it all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 If Thunder Warriors ever make it to the tabletop, I'm interested in what special rules they'll have to reflect their weaknesses/drawbacks Perhaps every couple of turns they have to pass "sudden insanity/physical failure" tests Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydriatus Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'd run thunder warriors as Tactical Marines without the Legion Astartes rules, and maybe drop a point or two in their statline. Or maybe even take a Marine Tactical Squad and just give them Guardsman Stats....Tricky...But hey, if anyone in the UK wants to do a Unification Book, I'm down for helping with that! :D Get a map of Old Earth, and write up army lists for the various nation states - like the techno geniuses the Salamanders fought before being Salamanders, or Cardinal Tang's forces in the Yndonesic Bloc, or the armies of Ursh, or the Nord Afrik Conclaves, or the forces of Hy Brasil, or the inhabitants of the wastes of Merica, or the kingdom in the Marinara Gorge, etc etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Make Custodes Guardsmen? Nah. Maybe give them extra WS for their spears, make them a little bit more expensive and maybe make them a 10-man squad max. For weapon options, I think I'd stick with CCWs and Assault weapons. For rules, gibe them something to make them useful as bodyguards and able to get into CC with no problem. But I think I'd leave their saves equal to Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 If we’re going to read about Unification we’re damn right going to read it from the viewpoints of those fighting against the Big E who was just another tyrant back then. I mean this will be a chance to see through the papyrus gloss and glamour and see what a monster the Emperor had to be to win Earth, not to mention give us an opportunity to squeeze our eyes really hard and project it into what things would be like in the 60th millennium. Cycle of good & evil, ‘heroes of today become the monsters of tomorrow’ and all that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290084-forget-the-scouring/#findComment-3663766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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