ZONKEY Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hello brothers I just have a few question regarding the origins of the darks angels 1) how did we get the ominous chapter title of the dark angel is this a caliban myth 2) for a knightly monk theme chapter where did the Native American theme fit in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hello brothers I just have a few question regarding the origins of the darks angels 1) how did we get the ominous chapter title of the dark angel is this a caliban myth 2) for a knightly monk theme chapter where did the Native American theme fit in? 1) If we're going by Descent of Angels then it was a Calibanite myth/prophecy if I remember correctly 2) What's the Native American theme? (Honestly haven't been paying attention to my DA in a while) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3666776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 1. Unsure, although I'm fairly certain it was pre-Caliban. 2. It originates from the novel Deathwing. A squad of DA Terminators return to their homeworld, a DA recruiting world, to find it over run with Tyranids. Deciding to stay and save their planet, then paint their armour bone to honour the traditions of their homeworld tribes, ala native American. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3666782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Originally the Dark Angels were known as the First Legion, I believe the Lion changed their name to the Dark Angels. Grotsmasha is correct, the short story Deathwing which was originally published in the Space Hulk supplement of the same name established the concept of a native American theme which was then carried forward in the artwork and background, but reduced considerably when the second edition codex came out. The echoes of that theme are still on the miniatures in the shape of feathers. I also paint the odd cloud and other native American style bit of artwork onto my miniatures occasionally, but the background has mostly moved away from it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3667003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 I read on wiki that the lion renamed the dark angels due to a old caliban myth on the planet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3667010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disciple of Caliban Sgt Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I believe that's in the Heresy Novels Fallen Angels? Anyway its hinted at anyway not sure I saw anything concrete. Hopefully we get some more info and at least a Novel about just us specifically. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3667049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 In Fallen Angels when the Lion and Luther first encounter the 1st legion an assault squad descends from the sky an is described as "black armoured angels with wings of fire", therefore the Lion renames the 1st legion as the "Dark Angels" from and old caliban myth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3667077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Luther quotes an old Calibanite myth/prophecy and Jonson says 'noice' and changes the name of the Chapter. As far as the Native American theme goes, it was an older theme which has been reduced in parts. According to DA myth there was a genestealer invasion of their recruiting world, Plains World, which was defeated by a group of Deathwing. This world had/has native american culture. The feathers and things are a throwback to that. Or they might just be leftovers of trophies from Caliban. Like everything with our background ambiguity is your friend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3667190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hello brothers I just have a few question regarding the origins of the darks angels 1) how did we get the ominous chapter title of the dark angel is this a caliban myth 2) for a knightly monk theme chapter where did the Native American theme fit in? It's actually more like knights than natives. They hunted beast in great hunts. Much like how knights would go on crusades to slay a Dragon or some other beast in medival lore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3667280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hello brothers I just have a few question regarding the origins of the darks angels 1) how did we get the ominous chapter title of the dark angel is this a caliban myth 2) for a knightly monk theme chapter where did the Native American theme fit in? It's actually more like knights than natives. They hunted beast in great hunts. Much like how knights would go on crusades to slay a Dragon or some other beast in medival lore. Yeah much more like that... or maybe even like hunting down a Mastodon... Yeah local knights rockin' the stone age. Sorry I couldn't resist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3667369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterrogatorChaplainKamjin Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 its A combo Caliban= knight world/culture(or was)......& one of our main /many recruiting worlds was heavily A Indian culture/tribe based system/planet.....IE Feathers etc.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290280-just-a-couple-of-questions/#findComment-3668911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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