No Mk VI on FW HH Troop Page?

[Emperor's Furor]

Just noticed, was looking at the Forgeworld Website considering whether I should do Dark Angels wearing Mk VI armour like their old rogue trader pictures when I realised, they ain't on the forgeworld troop page in the horus heresy section. They can be found though under the normal space marine section, is this normal, or is it a possible indication they may be releasing some newer ones soon?

[Plague Angel]

Why would it be an indication of newer ones?

 

They just aren't associated as closely with the "Heresy" label as they are with the "Space Marine" one. But the product pages for each kit are all the same, regardless of where you find the link. There's no functional difference between the MkVI kit and the Mks II, III, and IV one, other than what they're tagged as on the website.

[Kilofix]

Think it's normal. Mk VI and V have always been under the regular 40K section I believe so maybe they just didnt duplicate it under HH.

[Emperor's Furor]

Why would it be an indication of newer ones?

 

They just aren't associated as closely with the "Heresy" label as they are with the "Space Marine" one. But the product pages for each kit are all the same, regardless of where you find the link. There's no functional difference between the MkVI kit and the Mks II, III, and IV one, other than what they're tagged as on the website.

Usually when something new comes a long they remove the old stuff before putting up the new stuff as well as the old stuff sometimes. There's the legion variants of the Mk II, Mk III and Mk IV, so I was kind of wondering whether this could of been an indication they are going to do legion variants of the MVI.

[Plague Angel]

There aren't Legion variants, though. The pages are the same.

 

If you go to the "Warhammer 40,000 > Space Marines > Infantry" section and pick "Mk IV Assault Squad," you get this page:

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/MK_IV_SPACE_MARINE_ASSAULT_SQUAD.html

 

If you go "Horus Heresy > Legiones Astartes > Legion Troop Choices > Legion Assault Squad" and pick "Mk IV Assault Squad," you get, well, this page:

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/MK_IV_SPACE_MARINE_ASSAULT_SQUAD.html

[deathspectersgt7]

But they do have legion MK II, III, IV armour.

[Plague Angel]

They have their own links, but they lead to the same product pages ultimately, as I just demonstrated.

 

If you mean the Legion-specific variants like the Terror Squad for Night Lords, well, those are different kits altogether.

[Emperor's Furor]

No he's on about Normal Variants and Legion Variants, they have different poses and in the cases of the Mk IV have additional detail like the bolts on the legs.

 

Legion Variant - http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/LEGION_MKII_CRUSADE_ARMOUR.html

 

Normal Variant - http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/MK-II-CRUSADE-ARMOUR.html

[Plague Angel]

Oh, right. Or these, presumably.

 

Those still have the same general rule applying that the same kits are both under 40k and Heresy. The Mks V and VI being only tagged as 40k has been how it always is.

[Relict]

My guess is that eventually, FW plans to release the "Legion" variants of the Mark V and Mark VI armor. It fits nicely because the HH timeline is currently at a point just after the Isstvan V Dropsite Massacre. 

[Dragonkin Arenis]

My guess is that eventually, FW plans to release the "Legion" variants of the Mark V and Mark VI armor. It fits nicely because the HH timeline is currently at a point just after the Isstvan V Dropsite Massacre. 

 

Forge World have previously stated that they aren't going to do "Legion" variants of those kits, mainly because Mk.V could conceivably be anything that is non-standard power armour, from Mk.III fitted with armour plates that aren't as restrictive or heavy, Mk.IV festooned with extra plates and molecular bonding studs as hap-hazard repair jobs, prototype Mk.VI with more heavily-armoured power cables, or even a eclectic mix of various marks of power armour. As for Mk.VI, that's what the Space Marine Tactical box is for.

[Aristeo]

Aw man, where did you hear that FW isn't making Legion versions of MK V and VI?  That sucks if it's true.  MK V is too uniform and really needs some variation and their MK VI kit is pretty lackluster.  They could just cast the parts from the new Tac Squad and make a couple variant torsos.

[Kol Saresk]

 

Just noticed, was looking at the Forgeworld Website considering whether I should do Dark Angels wearing Mk VI armour like their old rogue trader pictures when I realised, they ain't on the forgeworld troop page in the horus heresy section. They can be found though under the normal space marine section, is this normal, or is it a possible indication they may be releasing some newer ones soon?

It is normal simply because "Legion Mk VI" hasn't been made it. mks II-IV all have the normal set found under the 40K Space Marines and then the Legion set found under the HH which is "newer"(not really new anymore) which has a few more poses and I think fewer studded pieces than the normal set.

[Dragonkin Arenis]

Aw man, where did you hear that FW isn't making Legion versions of MK V and VI?  That sucks if it's true.  MK V is too uniform and really needs some variation and their MK VI kit is pretty lackluster.  They could just cast the parts from the new Tac Squad and make a couple variant torsos.

 

Can't quote it for certain, but I remember hearing somewhere on the forum that one of our members emailed FW directly asking if they were going to make Legion kits for Mk.V and VI, and the reply basically said "No".

Much further down the line, if demand is greater, I wouldn't rule it out, but as I said before there are reasons Legion kits for those marks of power armour haven't been released.

 

If you think about it, Legion Mk.V and VI might be released when FW eventually reach the Siege, seeing as that is probably where the majority of it would be seen on either side of the conflict. But early on, at Isstvan and the early stages of the Heresy? I don't think so.

[Kol Saresk]

If that's the post I'm thinking about, that was around the time rumors for Massacre started popping up right? IIRC normal "Legion-specific squads" were a "no" as well around that time. Now that we're here where the Alpha Legion and the Raven Guard both have a high number of Mk VI, albeit different patterns, I'd say it'd just be a matter of time.

 

And we all know that when FW touches the Ultramarines, we're going to start seeing some Praetor-pattern armor and that is a Mk V variant. Once they hit that wall, they might as well go all the way.

[Dragonkin Arenis]

Can't remember the time specifically, but it may well have been around the time of Massacre, yes. But still, I don't think Legion kits for those marks of power armour are high up on FW's priority list right now.

 

Can't say I've heard of the fact that Praetor-pattern armour is a Mk.V variant. Where abouts did you see this?

imho, by the time Ultramarines Legion upgrade packs come along, some retcon somewhere will state that the Praetor-pattern power armour was given to exceptional officers, or was given to the Ultra's in order to test it out.

 

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Blindhamster]

Mkv is specifically any none standard suit, this is the official designation givrn by the mechanicum. Thus praetor armour is mkv as it is non standard.

[skeletoro]

Surely at least some of the raven guard specific models tied to hh3 will be wearing Mk vi or proto mark vi. There is enough of it in the raven guard artwork in the book. And once there are raven guard Mk vi hh kits, I can't imagine they will dally long in releasing a generic legion Mk vi kit. Personally I fully expect to see a legion Mk vi, Mk vi despoilers,  Mk vi assault squad, and Mk vi command set. Probably recon squad too but this might be limited to raven guard or alpha legion specific models. That's my guess though.

 

I wouldn't expect the old mk vi kit to find its  way to the hh site until new mark vi kits (e.g. legion Mk vi) are released.