Alpha Legion in the new book

[Custodian Athiair]

I'm going to start of this new post with, I have always been a fan of the Alpha Legion, however the Chaos Space Marine rules never allowed them to be played well. Secondly the outset of the Horus Heresy made me re-find my passion for the Alpha Legion and after the leaked rules for them a couple of weeks ago, I was 90% sure they were going to be my next army (Salamander 40K currently my only one). However I was still concerned as to how they would play, and whether my limited tactical capabilities (I know what I want to do, not how to do it) I could do them justice.

 

However having just finished reading their background in Extermination I am 100% an Alpha Legionnaire from now on. This thread I would love to see become a true discussion of their fluff, and rules in one. I will be raising a few comments myself and would love to hear your opinions and thoughts. Without further ado, here we go.

 

Firstly, how many people are seriously thinking about using Alpharius? Or do you prefer having your own customisable Praetor leading your army. I love his Pale Spear beyond compare, Instant Death + AP1 is lovely. And the army wide boon, of preferred enemy, but are you lot liking him enough to take him?

 

Continuing with rules/characters Exodus, I love him, okay maybe not a game changer, but I think a really enjoyable character, a certainty in my army purely for the imagery of a sniper.

 

What is the general consensus for the army wide USR that we can choose? I'm thinking Infiltrate or Scout. Either: To choose to go first and then deploy second pretty much wherever I want. Or to deploy and then move my mobile (assuming using the Rite of War) army instantly towards the enemy and get Bane-strike rounds in range.

 

Finally what are the (non-Alpha Legion) Legion specific units you are looking forward to stealing?

 

I'm sure other army/point/rule discussions shall arise but for now I shall move on to the part of the book that got my salivating and planning army lists in my head: FLUFF

 

Primarily is the fact that the Alpha Legion way of war has been clarified, yes they infiltrate, sabotage, assassinate and more before the "pitched battle", yet when it comes to that final battle, they attack with every aspect available to them: Artillery, Air Support, Super-heavy Tanks, Fast Tanks, Hidden Squads, Mobile Squads. Using everything to totally destroy the enemy in a single act of violence. That to me sounds extraordinary fun to play (even if badly), meaning you don't feel like you're going against fluff to play something you enjoy.

 

Next is just how well it is detailed, how and why almost every legion dislikes the Alpha Legion, and that even Horus becomes slightly scared by them, because he can't control their actions.

 

Obviously the discussion about Alpharius' "discovery" has been beaten to death with a steel cricket bat on this forum already, however the way in which it is written I find enthralling. Especially with the little sentences at the end simple stating "This is a lie."

 

My final discussion point (to stop from rambling too much); is the heraldry markings/confusion stuff. The artwork and descriptions have really got my juices flowing about what small little details I can put on my marines to make them that little bit more cool. Even using them as un-subtle squad markings - which although very Alpha Legion-y is useful for gaming/tournament. Although I am terrified by the prospect of having to paint a hydra! Greek Letters I can do, chains I might just be able to pull off.

- Minor sub-point under markings, I like that the "black" armour/Effrit is mentioned in passing, no total understanding but a subtle nod to those in the know. Also dreadnoughts with black.

- Second minor sub-point the Alpha/Omega symbol (special name vanished from my mind currently), seems to have only been used pre-Alpharius discovery, something written seemed to mention that in the artwork section for the Alpha Legion.

- Final minor sub-point, I am impressed with how they dealt with the "purple" colour scheme that was described in Legion, in that the Alpha Legion used almost a dozen different armour colour scheme's. With this information is anyone planning an "alternate" colour scheme for the Alpha Legion?

 

 

Okay I must stop before I rant endlessly about my new favourite legion of all time. Please don't ignore me for possibly bringing back up previous topics, and having a long first post. Thank you for your time!

[hairojin]

Very nice summary of the Alpha Legion. Their combined warfare is one of the reasons I chose them. I haven't played a game in Horus Heresy yet, still waiting for my first order to arrive in the mail. :)

 

I will not be using Alpharius in smaller games (up to 3000), primarchs are rather costly and there's so much else I want to field. Instead I'll be using a "standard" Praetor with Paragon blade, Iron halo and Pride of the Legion as my Rite of War, which makes veterans and terminators troops. I like the feel of Alpha Legionares that are better trained and equipped than normal marines, kind of like a special forces within the Astartes. With that in mind, and because my troops are mechanized, I will probably go for counter attack most of the time.

 

Would love to read yours and other experiences with AL on the battlefield.

 

Edit: Stupid autocorrect..

[Daemon2027]

I'm not really a gamer so can't comment on the rules side of things, but I would probably leave Alpharius for big games. If we get a model for The Assassin I'll probably grab several.

 

The fluff was excellent I thought. I'm glad they stated we fight by attacking from every vectors was really how I imagined we would. I plan to keep my Alpha's turquoise but I may add black to my effrit units.

 

Something I noticed in the background, only 2 legions had no problem fighting alongside us, the Dark Angles and the Iron Hands, and Alpharius may have spent time on Caliban.

[Secrets & Lies]

I will also be using a Praetor. If Forge World add the last Primarch to their character series then I'll use him in larger games. I intend to utilise Mechanicum and Imperial Army units rather than forces from other legions.

[Custodian Athiair]

Very nice summary of the Alpha Legion. Their combined warfare is one of the reasons I chose them. I haven't played a game in Horus Heresy yet, still waiting for my first order to arrive in the mail.

I will not be using Alpharius in smaller games (up to 3000), primarchs are rather costly and there's so much else I want to field. Instead I'll be using a "standard" Praetor with Paragon blade, Iron halo and Pride of the Legion as my Rite of War, which makes veterans and terminators troops. I like the feel of Alpha Legionares that are better trained and equipped than normal marines, kind of like a special forces within the Astartes. With that in mind, and because my troops are mechanized, I will probably go for counter attack most of the time.

Would love to read yours and other experiences with AL on the battlefield.

Edit: Stupid autocorrect..

I'm curious if you're taking Veterans as your standard troops choice (I assume that is what you meant), what will be the special rule you take as part of their Veteran rule? It's a valid argument about Alpha's being "better" than standard troops, I don't know whether I'd go for it or not though. Right now I'm thinking about a full force organisation chart "collection". But taking Vet's takes out the dilemma of taking 20 tac's and foot slogging or 10 and mobilizing them

I like the sound of taking the Pride of the Legion Rite of War, however I am thoroughly enticed by the ability to take the likes of a 10 man Terminator Sqaud with Cyclone Missile Launchers, or 2+/3++, 2 wound, scoring terminators using the Alpha Legion Rite of War.

Also a sneaky little combo I thought of, was if you take the Alpha Legion Rite of War, you get +1 to deciding who goes first (and deploys first). Therefore if you then take the army wide Infiltrate rule, you can choose to go first, and deploy second...

I see the argument in not taking Alpharius in smaller games, it's the same with any Primarch really.

[hairojin]

I plan to use three squads of vets in 2000p as my troops.

 

One squad with two missile launchers with flakk, vox, rhino. They will get tank hunters.

 

One squad with two meltaguns, serg with fist, banestrike ammunition, rhino. I keep going back and forth between fearless or sniper and a legion vexilla in this squad.

 

Last squad rides with my Praetor in a Land Raider Phobos, decked out for close combat so they get Furious charge.

 

I do miss the nice rules you get from Coils but I couldn't build a list that I liked with the drawbacks since I want mechanized troops. It also makes it faster for me to get my army ready with fewer marines in the list :) I would like to build some nice 20 man squads in the future though.

[Tenebris]

Now I begin stating that I have no HH era army and neither I plan to have one soon or at least until the second and the principal of the Legions of Change makes an appearance, my beloved XVth. Said that let's move on the province I consider myself a master, or at least close by, lore.

 

The Alpha Legion in HH: Extermination is a much different legion than we were used to from the past IA articles and what sparse novels and fluff was written on the XXth. Now I am a dinosaur, I have been playing chaos since the late days of 3rd and the first days of the glorious 3,5 CSM books and back than the Alpha Legion was actually quite similar to the Extermination era Alpha Legion, infiltration and deceit were known markers of the XXth but above all the Alpha Legion was distinguished by its hubris. 

 

HH: Extermination linked the modern interpretation of the Alpha Legion with its past and showed us a much more different XXth legion than we understood. Now the Alpha Legion has been revealed as the ultimate long term player, as the undying beast of legend, no more just a highly disciplined and independent astartes faction but a veritable organism, a monster in all but appearance, a Hydra. 

 

From HH: Extermination we have learned the three cardinal beliefs of the Alpha Legion, longevity, finesse, information.

 

For the longevity part we have learned what really makes the Alpha Legion a deadly foe, no matter how many marines lost their lives, no matter how many ships and tanks were destroyed or how many facilities were discovered, the Alpha Legion has it covered with hidden supply caches, secret training facilities, shadow docks and overall a massive pool of resources, manpower and knowledge to marginalize their losses. At long last we know why the Inquisition declared them destroyed three times and how utterly wrong this estimate was. In short, the Alpha Legion was built with staying power in mind, and this concept evolved in an almost organism like regrowth with the whole legion self replicating in an autonomous and isolated way. 

 

Speaking of finesse we understood what forged the Alpha Legion in the scalpel, into the fine blade wielded by its Harrowmasters. Finesse was revealed to not only imply assassination acts, sabotage and deceit but it implies now much more. The Alpha Legion have become the ultimate masters of asymmetric warfare which involves not only the stated tactics but also digital warfare, psychological warfare, cooperation between the various branches of the legion, integration with the human elements, detailed fleet operations, infiltration and so on. In short a whole new scale of warfare is being practiced by the Alpha Legion which coupled with their geneforged bodies and incredible mental facilities makes them one truly vicious and unpredictable foe. 

 

Information, now that was a treat. With the introduction of the Harrowmasters and an indication of the multilayered formations of the Alpha Legion we understood what cardinal value information had for the Alpha Legion. It officers unlike the ones of the other legions were praised for their supreme mental faculties, they were superhuman computers, capable of elaborating a myriad of informations, processing them with the ease of a posthuman and forging the informations in supremely detailed, complicated but utterly effective combat operations. In short the Alpha Legion officer is a thinker, a warrior still, but a smart warrior. It is said in the books that rarely the Alpha Legion commanders ventured to perform heroics so dear to their cousins and they usually took the field only when their presence would really decide the outcome of the battle. But there is also the culture which revolved around information as a concept. Squad markings were shifted on daily basis, ship call names were shuffled and recoded, names were merely designators, shrouding the astartes into a permanent cowl of secrecy. Individuality was used as a distraction, as a confusion, to pilot the enemy into thinking the legionnaires to be someone specific, while even the most notorious Harrowmasters had codenames, sealing their true name into anonymity. So not only was the Alpha Legion quite a distinctive looking astartes legion on the outside, but the true virtue of it all was perhaps the greatest act of deception ever played in the history of the human species, for anything you saw of the Alpha Legion on the outside, was what they wanted you to see and nothing more. 

 

Now Extermination has even more interesting things on the Alpha Legion. We have learned how impressive this legion was when it took the field, we have learned that they looked for themselves first and for the Emperor second, we also learn that they were not above stealing the secrets from their brother legions and implementing them into the Alpha Legion formations, resulting in an astartes legion which actually knew more of its fellow legions than their cousins themselves. 

 

I especially liked the notion of the Alpha Legion fleet. To me it struck true as an arrow. Indeed the capital ships were few, what use is to you a massive battleship when the majority of your operations is performed by wolf pack squadrons, lone operatives or small units. Having a massive fleet of escort ships allowed the Alpha Legion to move fast, move unseen and attack from so many angles that no capital ship could hope to escape them. Knowing how this concept was expanded in Scars and integrating it with the knowledge that the Alpha Legion were premier ship raiders, going so far to implement one man boarding torpedoes loaded with suicide operatives in order to cripple enemy ships, speaks volumes of how the Alpha Legion actually waged void war. 

 

 

In the end HH: Extermination was a revelation to me. No book has done more to make me believe in a 40k faction than that single Alpha Legion article and I only hope to see and read more on the dreaded XXth. 

[Custodian Athiair]

In the end HH: Extermination was a revelation to me. No book has done more to make me believe in a 40k faction than that single Alpha Legion article and I only hope to see and read more on the dreaded XXth. 

 

This quote sums up my opinions of the fluff perfectly. I was enthralled, it was surprised at how well written and real it was and just made me realise what the Alpha Legion are.

My brain is bursting with thoughts, and plans as to the Alpha Legion army I want to collect.

I just don't know when I'll start, my local GW is planning a summer campaign of slowly increasing increments of 250 every two weeks. However even then it's a sizeable investment for my Alpha Legion, and I fear with 250 increases I wouldn't be able to get to the army I want.

[Secrets & Lies]

Now I begin stating that I have no HH era army and neither I plan to have one soon or at least until the second and the principal of the Legions of Change makes an appearance, my beloved XVth. Said that let's move on the province I consider myself a master, or at least close by, lore.

 

The Alpha Legion in HH: Extermination is a much different legion than we were used to from the past IA articles and what sparse novels and fluff was written on the XXth. Now I am a dinosaur, I have been playing chaos since the late days of 3rd and the first days of the glorious 3,5 CSM books and back than the Alpha Legion was actually quite similar to the Extermination era Alpha Legion, infiltration and deceit were known markers of the XXth but above all the Alpha Legion was distinguished by its hubris. 

 

HH: Extermination linked the modern interpretation of the Alpha Legion with its past and showed us a much more different XXth legion than we understood. Now the Alpha Legion has been revealed as the ultimate long term player, as the undying beast of legend, no more just a highly disciplined and independent astartes faction but a veritable organism, a monster in all but appearance, a Hydra. 

 

From HH: Extermination we have learned the three cardinal beliefs of the Alpha Legion, longevity, finesse, information.

 

For the longevity part we have learned what really makes the Alpha Legion a deadly foe, no matter how many marines lost their lives, no matter how many ships and tanks were destroyed or how many facilities were discovered, the Alpha Legion has it covered with hidden supply caches, secret training facilities, shadow docks and overall a massive pool of resources, manpower and knowledge to marginalize their losses. At long last we know why the Inquisition declared them destroyed three times and how utterly wrong this estimate was. In short, the Alpha Legion was built with staying power in mind, and this concept evolved in an almost organism like regrowth with the whole legion self replicating in an autonomous and isolated way. 

 

Speaking of finesse we understood what forged the Alpha Legion in the scalpel, into the fine blade wielded by its Harrowmasters. Finesse was revealed to not only imply assassination acts, sabotage and deceit but it implies now much more. The Alpha Legion have become the ultimate masters of asymmetric warfare which involves not only the stated tactics but also digital warfare, psychological warfare, cooperation between the various branches of the legion, integration with the human elements, detailed fleet operations, infiltration and so on. In short a whole new scale of warfare is being practiced by the Alpha Legion which coupled with their geneforged bodies and incredible mental facilities makes them one truly vicious and unpredictable foe. 

 

Information, now that was a treat. With the introduction of the Harrowmasters and an indication of the multilayered formations of the Alpha Legion we understood what cardinal value information had for the Alpha Legion. It officers unlike the ones of the other legions were praised for their supreme mental faculties, they were superhuman computers, capable of elaborating a myriad of informations, processing them with the ease of a posthuman and forging the informations in supremely detailed, complicated but utterly effective combat operations. In short the Alpha Legion officer is a thinker, a warrior still, but a smart warrior. It is said in the books that rarely the Alpha Legion commanders ventured to perform heroics so dear to their cousins and they usually took the field only when their presence would really decide the outcome of the battle. But there is also the culture which revolved around information as a concept. Squad markings were shifted on daily basis, ship call names were shuffled and recoded, names were merely designators, shrouding the astartes into a permanent cowl of secrecy. Individuality was used as a distraction, as a confusion, to pilot the enemy into thinking the legionnaires to be someone specific, while even the most notorious Harrowmasters had codenames, sealing their true name into anonymity. So not only was the Alpha Legion quite a distinctive looking astartes legion on the outside, but the true virtue of it all was perhaps the greatest act of deception ever played in the history of the human species, for anything you saw of the Alpha Legion on the outside, was what they wanted you to see and nothing more. 

 

Now Extermination has even more interesting things on the Alpha Legion. We have learned how impressive this legion was when it took the field, we have learned that they looked for themselves first and for the Emperor second, we also learn that they were not above stealing the secrets from their brother legions and implementing them into the Alpha Legion formations, resulting in an astartes legion which actually knew more of its fellow legions than their cousins themselves. 

 

I especially liked the notion of the Alpha Legion fleet. To me it struck true as an arrow. Indeed the capital ships were few, what use is to you a massive battleship when the majority of your operations is performed by wolf pack squadrons, lone operatives or small units. Having a massive fleet of escort ships allowed the Alpha Legion to move fast, move unseen and attack from so many angles that no capital ship could hope to escape them. Knowing how this concept was expanded in Scars and integrating it with the knowledge that the Alpha Legion were premier ship raiders, going so far to implement one man boarding torpedoes loaded with suicide operatives in order to cripple enemy ships, speaks volumes of how the Alpha Legion actually waged void war. 

 

 

In the end HH: Extermination was a revelation to me. No book has done more to make me believe in a 40k faction than that single Alpha Legion article and I only hope to see and read more on the dreaded XXth. 

 

Testify

[grand_master85]

Absolutely love the new fluff in this book. It's given me the boost I need to do te Legion I always wanted to do, so y static Iron Warriors army has gone and been sold and paved the way for a more mobile, rounded AL force.

 

Personally, I'm also massively pleased that they mentioned that the AL utilise different colour scheme after different scheme (myself, I'm settling for varied shades of sotek green finished with a thin wash of 33/33/33 Druchii Violet, Lahmian Medium and water).

 

Regarding the units to steal, I'm unsure. Personally I was looking forward to stealing a unit of Fire drakes, tagging along with Alpharius in a storm eagle. Assault Vehicle FTW :) it's also helped me with a problem I used to have; I struggled every time I saw the cool legio specific stuff. It now means that I can buy one of every Legion special unit to use :) wasn't sure whether to paint the minis in their original legion colours to represent units turning, or whether to do them in AL colours to show the AL stealing tech. I like the idea of Fire drakes painted blue with all the scales painted green :D

[Custodian Athiair]

Well technically you could get more than one and mix and match which legion unit you feel like using when.

I had considered Fire-drakes too, not in the same egg/basket doom unit as you. But mainly as an unkillable objective holding unit. Stick them with an Apothecary and dear lord those bad boys are beyond tough:

2+ Armour Save

4++ Invulnerable Save - possible 3++ with upgrade

2 Wounds

And then 4+ Feel No Pain

 

Although the Iron Warrior Cyclone Missile Bombardment Death Unit sounds very fun. Other than that no major unit has taken my fancy. I'm hoping for some cool Dark Angel, Blood Angel, and Space Wolves units.

 

On a side note on the discussion of Legion Specific Terminators, what are the general opinions on the Lernaean Terminators. I like the Power Axe idea, with Volkite Chargers, they couldn't of tried harder to put in as much Greek/Herculean Mythology if they were being paid by the legend himself. I don't know how effective they'll be in games but the imagery resounds strongly with me. Anyone else?

[Dragonlover]

Not got the book yet, what's a Harowmaster?

 

Dragonlover

[Custodian Athiair]

Harrowmaster is essentially the Alpha Legion version of captains. They're the commanders in charge of that specific operation and have Imperial recorded names, although these names are widely believed to be false identities.

 

Also wierdly are the "sergeants" for the Lernaean Terminators...

[Excessus]

Those are called Harrowers though, not Harrowmasters...

[Custodian Athiair]

Those are called Harrowers though, not Harrowmasters...

 

Thank you for correcting me (had to restrain from using the Rout phrase then)

[UnkyHamHam]

Also been wanting to do a Legion army since Betrayal.  However reading Extermination sealed the deal for Alpha Legion for me!  

 

I've been thinking a lot on the special unit you can take with Coils of the Hydra.  And for me, it has to Mor Deythan.  These guys just fit right in with the AL style.  Plus they bring their fancy Storm Eagle variant as a dedicated transport!  That's just awesome!

 

And I will definitely be using Alpharius in my army (3k).  Combined with Coils of the Hydra, you get a re-rollable 4+ seize!  

 

I only wish i could somehow have both Pride of the Legion and Coils of the Hydra.  Toughest decision ever!

[Emperor's Furor]

On the fluff front, what percentage of chance do you think there will be that we'll end up with a divided faction of loyalist and traitor Alpha Legion? I like the style of the Alpha Legion, it seems to have the ability to front ancient technology despite being the youngest legion but also the sabotage angle and the offensive form of combat appeals to me. I'm considering Dark Angels atm but I'm a big softy for purple like armour but I want to be loyalist also, so I'm hoping the fluff could support it.

[Kais Klip]

I’m considering Dark Angels … but I want to be loyalist.

Hear hear. See, we’re already one, brother

On the loyalist front, unless you want to do some out-of-contact loyal cell, I’d have to say it’s a 50-50 throw up, between one half being loyalist and the other with the twins disagreeing over which way to win Horus’ war. Pretty soon that die will be rolled, and then a pirate will steal it because yarr alpha legion are pirates and pirates are loyal only towards their own end.

[Emperor's Furor]

I’m considering Dark Angels … but I want to be loyalist.

Hear hear. See, we’re already one, brother

On the loyalist front, unless you want to do some out-of-contact loyal cell, I’d have to say it’s a 50-50 throw up, between one half being loyalist and the other with the twins disagreeing over which way to win Horus’ war. Pretty soon that die will be rolled, and then a pirate will steal it because yarr alpha legion are pirates and pirates are loyal only towards their own end.

lol

I dunno I like the idea that one of the twins is actually having second thoughts. Perhaps the stories as to how Alpharius were all true in some shape or form and one of the twins did spend a lot of time with the Emperor whilst the other was cast far away and when he returned he had a more dominating quality over the twin who spent time with the Emperor?

The Tenebrae installation and the way the Alpha Legion acted around the White Scars really makes me question the loyalty of a twin, because in those examples what the Alpha Legion did, didn't seem to have any possible positive effect for the Traitors. What it did was allow the White Scars to receive information regarding the wider events, specifically the orders direct from Terra. it also allowed the White Scars to escape as they'd been cut off by the same warp storm, surely if you wanted to bend the White Scars to your side you'd keep them there until someone with the influence, such as Horus could show up and explain things, however in this case, the Alpha Legion simply sat at long range, didn't even try to persuade the White Scars and in my opinion gifted the White Scars a chance to escape by opening a gap in their own lines.

After this the White Scars were away and could find the reasons out for themselves. No where in this scheme of events do I see any positives for the traitors, if the idea behind the Alpha Legion turning was for the Emperor to be crushed so entirely that chaos burns itself out, then giving the Emperor an entire additional Legion is not exactly helpful, especially one that has the speed and ingenuity to reinforce Terra.

[Custodian Athiair]

I genuinely (half) believe that the Alpha Legion are using the Cabal to their own ends actually - what those end's are I don't actually know, or could possible guess at.

 

I haven't read Scars yet, but it is next on my list. So I can't comment just yet

 

 

Also been wanting to do a Legion army since Betrayal.  However reading Extermination sealed the deal for Alpha Legion for me!  

 

I've been thinking a lot on the special unit you can take with Coils of the Hydra.  And for me, it has to Mor Deythan.  These guys just fit right in with the AL style.  Plus they bring their fancy Storm Eagle variant as a dedicated transport!  That's just awesome!

 

And I will definitely be using Alpharius in my army (3k).  Combined with Coils of the Hydra, you get a re-rollable 4+ seize!  

 

I only wish i could somehow have both Pride of the Legion and Coils of the Hydra.  Toughest decision ever!

 

The 4+ re-rollable is a bit ridiculous isn't it. If you were to do that, what army wide special rule are you considering? Scout? or Counter Attack would be the two I'd be thinking about at that point.

Also I'm not a fan of any Raven Guard units, myself. Especially since they're so "Alpha Legion" as you stated, I see the Coils of the Hydra unit steal, should be used to take something that add's the Alpha Legion makes them better. Something solid and tough to kill comes to mind, or serious mobile firepower? Just me.

 

Can someone try to convince me on the quality of taking Pride of the Legion to represent the Alpha Legion coolly? Cause Veteran Squads are only so good imo, okay they get a second special rule in addition to the army wide one we get. But other benefits to taking that Rite?

[hairojin]

Can someone try to convince me on the quality of taking Pride of the Legion to represent the Alpha Legion coolly? Cause Veteran Squads are only so good imo, okay they get a second special rule in addition to the army wide one we get. But other benefits to taking that Rite?

They get better equipment over a standard tactical squad. They come equipped with bolter, bolt pistol and ccw. You can then give them two special/heavy weapons and banestrike ammo if you want. Also your termies become troops, which will include our legion specific ones according to people with the collectors edition. For me all of this is a huge boon as I'm going mechanized. If you're gonna footslog I don't know if it's worth it.

[Terimus]

In the Dropsite Campaign my friends and I are playing, my Alpha Legion I'm fielding on the side of my Night Lords is going to have Alpharius at the lead (I just love all the bonuses he gets and the sneaky attack) and Exodus, a Vigilator, 2 Lernaean Terminator squads with conversion beamers (cause who wouldnt want to take those when you can still move and shoot it!) some tacticals and as many HeadHunter Kill Teams as I can. 

 

Me personally, I really like Alpharius, he's a very well rounded Primarch. He's pretty good in close combat with the AP 1 and instant death, has the plasma blaster for ranged attacks at a high BS. I dont see why I wouldnt take him in my army personally

[Emperor's Furor]

I don't actually think conversion beamers are that good for terminators, they get better the further you're away when you're close they don't even have an AP.

[hairojin]

I don't actually think conversion beamers are that good for terminators, they get better the further you're away when you're close they don't even have an AP.

I agree, except maybe for a small backfield counter charging unit if your regular opponents use a lot of outflanking or deep striking units.

[Custodian Athiair]

My two pennies, is that conversion beamers would be wasted on Lernaean Terminators, I'd be getting them in close with choppy axes and volkinite weapons.

 

Also I am being turned to Pride of the Legion as my Rite of War now! Curse you, I wanted Cyclone Missile Terminators -_-

 

But the veterans being able to counter-attack out of a rhino, plus double special weapons. And certainly the bp/ccw feels very Alpha Legion...

And moving Terminators to troops frees up the Elite section for Apothecaries, Comptemptor Dreadnoughts and Rapier Batteries. I don't know what it is about those tracked guns but they feel very Alpha Legion to me, mobile heavy fire power.

 

Hmm... getting difficult to fill out a FOC without missing something I want...