Lord Kallozar Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Hi all, which HQ would you guys choose for a Nurgle force - Necrosius or Typhus? and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I run necrosis as my regular HQ. I also use the servants of decay as allies (necrosisus' traitor guard army list) I tend to put him in a horde of 50 zombies and just let them irritate the enemy. the SoD zombies are S4 and with necrosius' special rules they get furious charge so you have 100 S5 attacks on the charge. Theres not much that can stand against that he is cheaper than typhus and he's a strong sorcerer. Obviously he is not as tough as typhus only being in power armour but giving him 50 ablative wounds with FnP helps enormously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Here is my question: can you take Plague Marines as troops if you take Necrosius? RAI I feel like the answer would be yes, but RAW I am worried it is "no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 i agree that you SHOULD be able to but the problem is he's a sorcerer not a lord. Ask your opponent if he'll let you and have the cheapest Nurgle lord possible standing by to slot in if he says no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I don't know if he's a "sorceror" ...Typhus is also a psyker yet he unlocks PMs like a Chaos Lord. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kallozar Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Yeah wow that's never actually occurred to me edits.... If necrosius does indeed make PM's a troop choice! If not then that's a real kick in the teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annatar Giftbringer Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I don't know if he's a "sorceror" ...Typhus is also a psyker yet he unlocks PMs like a Chaos Lord. Sigh. The important thing regarding Typhus is his special rule "Lord of the plague host" that allows him to unlock PM troops. If Necrosius lacks it (or an equivalent special rule) he will not unlock PM troops, since he is not a Chaos Lord with mark of Nurgle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 "the bitter and twisted sorcerer known as necrosis is an ancient foe of the imperium" i agree he should make plague marines troops but in RAW he doesn't what i've always wanted to know about necrosis is what to do about his gift of chaos psychic power. Even the 6th edition update says he has it but it isn't included in the current chaos codex. Do we just use the old one? if so thats rather a boost as its a nice power. reasonably powerful and fluffy. Particularly good as it can shoot in and out of combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 So- if the power hits automatically, is it automatically focused onto the model of choice? As in, he can snipe guys out of squads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 "Pick an enemy model" doesn't matter about the auto hit, it definitely snipes the model from my reading the power never 'hits'. it also specifically says that it doesn't cause a wound and that no saves apply so i think i'm right in saying look out sir doesn't affect it either. You could stick him in a squad of 50 zombies with a rogue sorcerer of Nurgle (15 points) attached. The sorcerer takes a challenge, the zombies stop necrosis from being hit and the challenger becomes a spawn which then attacks his own unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Are you using the most recent rules for him? In the latest Imperial Armour Apocalypse? That doesn't sound like his Wasting Disease power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 he isn't in imperial armour apocalypse. as far as i am aware his most recent rules is the forge world 6th edition updatehttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/c/Characters.pdfhe is a level two psyker and knows wasting disease, nurgle's rot and gift of chaos which is the power i posted about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Those are not the most recent rules. Those FAQs were holdovers for 6th until FW updated it in a new publication. Although it is not well-advertised (and really, they should pulll/fix that PDF FAQ), Necro. and some other Vraks characters are in the 2013 Apocalypse update. Edit: this onehttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Armour_Books/IMPERIAL_ARMOUR_APOCALYPSE.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 from what i can see that book is on pre order and will be relaxed in august. At least thats what it says on its website. Also why would necrosis be in an apocalypse book, he is siege of vraks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 The Imperial Armor Apocalypse update includes a "War Zone Vraks" expansion like the GW Apocalypse books, with all the special characters and formations relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 That's awesome. But that page says the book isn't released till August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Forge World is bad about updating its websites, which is terrible considering that it has updated and errata'd so many things. It came out August 2013. I have a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 :O But.... I.... THE PROPHECIES WERE TRUE!!!! Does it have all the vraksian units or just necrosius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 But.... I.... THE PROPHECIES WERE TRUE!!!! Does it have all the vraksian units or just necrosius? In terms of Nurgle stuff, it just has him. He affects the plague zombies of both lists, which stay separate. Can be HQ for either. New rules for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_contagion Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 from what i can see that book is on pre order and will be relaxed in august. At least thats what it says on its website. Also why would necrosis be in an apocalypse book, he is siege of vraks. I bought the book a few months ago and have it in my possession, so that pre-order must have been for last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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