depthcharge12 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Hey guys just wanted to ask your opinion as I'm trying to build a contemptor dreadnought for my first legion. It's going to be converted with lots of bits (I don't know how to use GS and I'm not that good). Now I was wondering if I should buy the Venerated Contemptor - the one with the Aquila on the front - and add bits as it is neutral, or if I should buy the Death Gaurd one and scrape off the icons and scrape off the X and V to leave just the I for the first legion. I was thinking of adding some of these bits to it and possibly some statues to the top: http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/96bb6969d48e3b89f78bfa2e669daf3c_zpsa159af37.jpg http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/b5b0e32aa24f6ed1d6c5c2e4ab29b252_zps26d75fa3.jpg I was thinking of using the rope sling on the front and adding some of the large scrolls too. I plan on attaching those wings to the top front of the glacis (above the head) as well as attaching one of the larger censers to the waist. I'm trying not to clutter up the model too much, but as there isn't an existing contemptor for the first legion yet, I wanted to make my own. Now which of the two dreads should I use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I would start with the relic Contemptor and go from there. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The Venerable would probably be best, seeing as the First Legion Contemptor would probably be older thus receiving the laurels and whatnot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Wait a tic, I thought the Contemptor war chassis was a younger design than the ol' "cinder block" dreadnought? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Wait a tic, I thought the Contemptor war chassis was a younger design than the ol' "cinder block" dreadnought? The venerable Ferribundus and Lucifer chassis? The walking egg gun platform of death? Yes they are older but it would be quite funny if the HH team allowed the 1st legion to take them when they get the rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Lol, I meant younger in the 30k universe. As in, the Mechanicus designed / found the Contemptor chassis during the crusade, and the Mk IV Dreadnought Chassis was the more 'venerable', aka older, design. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Lol, I meant younger in the 30k universe. As in, the Mechanicus designed / found the Contemptor chassis during the crusade, and the Mk IV Dreadnought Chassis was the more 'venerable', aka older, design.Yes haha that's what I meant too. The contemptor chassis is relatively younger and was used to replace the largely outdated Lucifer and Ferribundus pattern dreadnoughts. I value your opinion heathens, do you prefer the venerated contemptor or should I try to use the death Gaurd one and scrape off the "X" and "V" on the front to be left with the "I" for the first legion. Also look at the one that the guy did for ADBs blog Edit: linky http://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/tag/tale-of-five-heretics/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Though I'm not a fan of the sword, that is one badass Contemptor. Personally, I've alwasy viewed the Contemptor to be a rare machine, yet they're everywhere, kinda like plasma pistols. (can't blame anyone, it's an awesome model) To that end, I'm not getting one myself, and I'm instead focusing on creating unique dreadnought chassis for my talon, to give them that "Ancient" feel. They're the old men of the legion, the War-Broken. The slab shaped surfaces work well for this, giving them this brutal yet simplified look you'd expect from a Legion of Siege-engineers. But for the Dark Angels, the First Legion, those who fought longer than all.... a Relic Contemptor would fit just fine. It fits their knightly asthetics, and it just has that look, y'know? Either answer would be great, man. The real question is, what kind of look are you wanting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Personally I like the image of the dark angels not being as highly decorated as in that ADB link, maybe the odd hood and robe here and there but nothing to the extent they are dripping in imagery, I prefer the idea that came after the heresy when they changed their colours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 I prefer the idea that came after the heresy when they changed their colours. Is that meant as a jibe good sir? :P @heathens I'm beginning to like the look of the relic contemptor but with slightly less bling and no XBOXHEUGE sword. Black can be such a pain the the gluteus because it needs details to make the black stand out, or else it looks just like a primed model. I would try to do some green stuff robes but I have no experience with the stuff and I believe that robes are the hardest thing to sculpt. Plus I don't have any idea where to start with that idea. It would be cool and original, but I fear that I would botch it up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I really like the simple elegance of the regular contemptor. The smooth surfaces lend themselves to cool free hand. You ever think of adding the wings from the deathwing command box? Those look slick on the top of them by the exhaust Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Also for such a large model with lots of black, breaking it up with green on the knee pads, checkers etc helps. Also starting with a dark grey with layers of washes adds depth to the model Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I prefer the idea that came after the heresy when they changed their colours. Is that meant as a jibe good sir? @heathens I'm beginning to like the look of the relic contemptor but with slightly less bling and no XBOXHEUGE sword. Black can be such a pain the the gluteus because it needs details to make the black stand out, or else it looks just like a primed model. I would try to do some green stuff robes but I have no experience with the stuff and I believe that robes are the hardest thing to sculpt. Plus I don't have any idea where to start with that idea. It would be cool and original, but I fear that I would botch it up lol, no not at all, I'm currently planning on doing Dark Angels myself, I just meant that it's after the heresy during the time they changed their colours that they suddenly became addicted to all the fancy ornate stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Well, if you look at their pics from the Collected Visions book, the Pre-Heresy Dark Angels actually had quite a bit of decoration. Again, being the oldest Legion adds to that bit as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I know for a fact that the FW brass etch DA symbol will fit on the front of the regular contemptor chassis after carefully removing the aquilla. I would recommend using that chassis and adding to it instead of the Venerable Contemptor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 I know for a fact that the FW brass etch DA symbol will fit on the front of the regular contemptor chassis after carefully removing the aquilla. I would recommend using that chassis and adding to it instead of the Venerable Contemptor. I had though of something similar along those lines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Well, if you look at their pics from the Collected Visions book, the Pre-Heresy Dark Angels actually had quite a bit of decoration. Again, being the oldest Legion adds to that bit as well. Can someone compile some of those pictures on here for reference? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Ta-da. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Ta-da. Thank you kind sir. I'm writing a paper on the Feds response to the recession right now so anything to distract me is welcome :P Plus I always like how that dreadnought is poking his head out in the back of my avatar pic. Photo bombing still exists in the 30th millennium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Especially this image... When someone says "Pre-Heresy Dark Angels", this is exactly how I imagine them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 I agree heathens, I would kill to find a good plastic model for those helmets and some claymores Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Don't make me add another Legion to this tie, Heathens. I don't even know how many Legions are my "favorite" now thanks to this board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290718-da-contemptor-use-dg-or-venerated/#findComment-3677620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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