Emperor's Furor Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 What's the alternative to rakarth flesh from the GW range now? I agree that it needs "greyer", do you think I can work with the way I do them now or completely alter the way I do it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290879-how-would-you-differentiate-between-loyalist-and-traitors/page/2/#findComment-3681962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Rakarth is in the current paint range, it's closest to the olf Dheneb Stone, but it's a tad darker (but my mate lightens it with white no problem). I've currently got a messy mix of old and new paints unfortunately. What you're currently doing may work out with a lighter sepia wash, it doesn't look bad as is, just doesn't quite click with me.. Apart from the mixing of paints, it's also pretty simple, most of my recommendations will involve more steps. You could try playing around with terminatus stone to 'grey' it up a bit, it's one of the new dry range, and (unsurprisingly) is rather good for dry brushing. I use it before a wash, but as I'm going for more of a stained, tainted, browny off-white for my CSMs, you might want to try using it after the wash. If I was going to try Death Guard though, I'd be doing it completely differently from the FW guide, I'd try Rakarth Base, black wash, terminatus dry brush and pallid wych flesh highlight (this is a really good 'not quite white' colour for highlights). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290879-how-would-you-differentiate-between-loyalist-and-traitors/page/2/#findComment-3681989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Hmm ok, do you think rather than the white and lahmian mix I should perhaps use a rakarth and lahmian mix? That's if I'm not totally redoing the style. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290879-how-would-you-differentiate-between-loyalist-and-traitors/page/2/#findComment-3682321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Just a thought, but I wouldn't bother with any distinguishing features. The main games you're going to want to play with your loyalists are probably the Istvaan missions, and the guys there aren't going to have had time to repaint their armour. By the time the traitors arrive on Terra, you're not going to have any issues distinguishing between Loyalist and Traitor Deathguard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290879-how-would-you-differentiate-between-loyalist-and-traitors/page/2/#findComment-3682477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yeah I was thinking about that, perhaps I could paint their right arm red but keep the traditional death guard off white? Absolutely awesome. Realistic in the circumstances (battlefield retouching), resonant with the Legion's history, and distinctive on the tabletop. Sometimes just "going back to our old colours" can feel a bit hackneyed and contrived, but this is great balance of in-universe pragmatism and modelling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290879-how-would-you-differentiate-between-loyalist-and-traitors/page/2/#findComment-3682510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Hmm ok, do you think rather than the white and lahmian mix I should perhaps use a rakarth and lahmian mix? That's if I'm not totally redoing the style. To be honest, I'm not sure what purpose the addition of the lahmian serves. If I was feeling cynical I might suggest it's a con to sell something to dilute the paint, when water works perfectly well. But yeah, to get the off white colour that I imagine creamite as being, I'd go for Rakarth Flesh and Terminatus Stone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290879-how-would-you-differentiate-between-loyalist-and-traitors/page/2/#findComment-3682561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yeah I was thinking about that, perhaps I could paint their right arm red but keep the traditional death guard off white? Absolutely awesome. Realistic in the circumstances (battlefield retouching), resonant with the Legion's history, and distinctive on the tabletop. Sometimes just "going back to our old colours" can feel a bit hackneyed and contrived, but this is great balance of in-universe pragmatism and modelling. If your doing a post battle survivors would that be more suited to dropping back to original colours? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290879-how-would-you-differentiate-between-loyalist-and-traitors/page/2/#findComment-3682641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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