MasterofMankind Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Or it was just reminding you the fate of all Loyalists all things is to die get om nom nomed by Tyranids. Fixed that for you. Fixed again Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3702385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Or it was just reminding you the fate of all Loyalists all things is to die get om nom nomed by Tyranids. Fixed that for you. Fixed againI can't believe y'all added an extra "all" and called it "a fix". :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3702398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I can't believe you typed "y'all." Hick! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3702840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I can't believe you typed "y'all." Hick! I'm wondering if he says "howdy!" now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3702943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 *Fails to come up with a good setup so that he can say something, posts it anyways* Kol, I'm playing the world's smallest banjo for you. *Nailed it* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3702953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripharius Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 What's wrong with "y'all," y'all? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3705196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 What's wrong with "y'all," y'all?Ignorant Yankees who use it as a singular pronoun when anyone with bat sense knows it's a plural! :rage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3705251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can't believe you typed "y'all." Hick! I'm wondering if he says "howdy!" now... Nah, I'm a Floridian raised by a Georgian. Ain't quite that bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3705260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The freighter crashing into the space docking yard would be the right spot to open. Then cut back to the start of the book "136 hours earlier"... That section of Know No Fear, starting with the Campanile's acceleration and going all the way through the realization that it's "raining main battle tanks" is such a great read, and an even better listen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3717800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I'm currently listening to it and it's a great read ! It's actually my first read of the Horus Heresy and I'm pleasantly surprised about how Astartes are depicted... While in 40k most Chapters seem to have stuck up ritualistic Marines that speak grandiloquently, the Astartes of 30k seem more down to earth, more business oriented and overall humanish ! They feel like soldiers to me. Is this a trend for all the HH series, or is it specific to this book ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3725511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 It's most pronounced in this book I'd say, although the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus in the first three books are also pretty pragmatic and not given to unnecessary elaboration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3725865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Makes sense. These space marines are way younger than those of 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3726609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I see ! In any case, I way prefer that chatter over the "Brothers ! we shalt smite the enemy in the glorious name of the glorious emperor and we go where we wilt and slay who we wilt" stuff we see around. They feel more believable to me, or at least more relatable ! It gave me newfound appreciation of Roboute Guilliman as well... He really feels like a smart general rather than lawmaker. And his dialogs with Lorgar are priceless ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3727119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I see ! In any case, I way prefer that chatter over the "Brothers ! we shalt smite the enemy in the glorious name of the glorious emperor and we go where we wilt and slay who we wilt" stuff we see around. They feel more believable to me, or at least more relatable ! It gave me newfound appreciation of Roboute Guilliman as well... He really feels like a smart general rather than lawmaker. And his dialogs with Lorgar are priceless ! It's the setting. 30K is the "enlightenment age", think "Classical Greek and Rome". The speech patterns where in completely different languages so we replaced them with the modern tongue. But 40K? That's the Dark Ages. So it gets written how we view the Dark Ages, with grandiose speeches, religious genocide, and science being viewed as witchcraft. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3727244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 And the Ultramarines evidently talk like Sharpe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3727508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Dan's prose is crisp and succinct. His sentences tend to be quite short and I think he may even prefer simpler words with fewer syllables. His dialogue tends not to be as grandiose or flowery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3727628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I've loved know no fear. So far one of my two favourites in the HH, with The First Heretic. However then there's Prospero Burns and the wet-leopard growls. Can't say Abnett is my favourite author :) I hadn't realised both books belonged to the same author (KNF and Prospero Burns), but now I can see the similarities. Both books develop the story over most of the book with a lot of detail, and when you start to think that he won't have time to finish it and he'll need an extra book, suddenly it's all over. I liked them both, but the endings felt like he was running out of pages. The rest of the book felt like some stuff was great, and other stuff led nowhere and the pages could've been spent beefing up the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3727714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I'll agree that Know No Fear starts a lot stronger than it finishes. The last instant of the Campanile is an amazing read, along with things like beginning of Oll's story, and Roboute's conversation with Thiel, and then the climax of the story is just kind of there. On the other hand, PB lives on the constant repeated tease of wondering how the memory ends and when the reveal comes, everything in Kasper's life comes unravelled in an instant, along with everything everyone thought they knew about what was happening. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3729617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Sounds like I need to give this a read. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290935-know-no-fear-revisiting-with-appreciation/page/2/#findComment-3730673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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