Daemon2027 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Cults tend to work that way if there is nothing centralised to bring it together. It's how early Christians got by until they started to not take part in Roman religious social events.As long as people like Oll didn't rock the boat and followed the rules, I would imagine local administration would over look his faith.The Emperor may have been the one who shaped Catholicism(in the Warhammer universe that is), which is why he has left it in the shadows. Or he may see it as the vehicle for a religion based around himself, if Godhood is his end game.Early Christians never partook in Roman Social Festivities. They took part in the Jewish ones until the writings of the books of Romans, Hebrew and Galatians(and possibly other letters that did not survive the tests of time) when the Apostles started to preach that Christians were no longer bound by the Law of Moses, except where it was "the law of the land". Ironically, modern Christians are more likely to partake in the Roman social festivities with events like Easter, Christmas and other "Christian holidays" that are not found in the Bible, but coincide with and parallel the "pagan" holidays.Okay, history lesson over. That's what I was trying to say, though probably not clearly. The Romans didn't care about the Christians, who they saw as another Jewish sect, UNTILL they refused to attend the Roman Social Festivals, which generally revolved around the deified emperor. This was a big no no for the Romans, so they fell under suspicious eyes. Of course most of the persecutions were fuelled by greed (they tended to look after the money), or scapegoating rather then a since of righting a civic duty. But yeah, way off topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290962-irony-perseverance-or-tolerance-30k-catherics/page/4/#findComment-3685560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I dunno. I think the Perpetuals are an interesting twist, myself. I do find it somewhat irritating that their every other memory is to a historic event. What about the other 28 thousand years? Don't any of them ever think about long centuries of solar expansion? The Dark Age of Technology? The Long Night? Doesn't Oll ever miss his automatic quantum bidet from M19? Have nightmares about Narthan Dune? Love it! Whilst I think the Catherics are at least in part meant to be based on the Catholic church ultimately no religions will be the same that far in the future. It's the same situation as when people ask about race (or even gender), e.g. "Why are all space marines white?" - they're not, effectively every gene-seed lineage is a race in its own right. "Why are all Imperial Guard white?" - they won't be, generations of inter-breeding and then isolation on alien worlds mean that people are Catachan or Cadian or Tallarn, not caucasian, african etc. For us to apply our contemporary cultural groupings to the far future is like people from a thousand years ago looking at the UK today and asking, "So do these people have a Norman culture or a Saxon culture?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290962-irony-perseverance-or-tolerance-30k-catherics/page/4/#findComment-3685574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 But lots of 40k armies have specific analogues to ethnic cultures. Sometimes very specific. I'm not sure I see your point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290962-irony-perseverance-or-tolerance-30k-catherics/page/4/#findComment-3685598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdemayo Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I dunno. I think the Perpetuals are an interesting twist, myself. I do find it somewhat irritating that their every other memory is to a historic event. What about the other 28 thousand years? Don't any of them ever think about long centuries of solar expansion? The Dark Age of Technology? The Long Night? Doesn't Oll ever miss his automatic quantum bidet from M19? Have nightmares about Narthan Dune?Love it! :lol: Whilst I think the Catherics are at least in part meant to be based on the Catholic church ultimately no religions will be the same that far in the future. It's the same situation as when people ask about race (or even gender), e.g. "Why are all space marines white?" - they're not, effectively every gene-seed lineage is a race in its own right. "Why are all Imperial Guard white?" - they won't be, generations of inter-breeding and then isolation on alien worlds mean that people are Catachan or Cadian or Tallarn, not caucasian, african etc. For us to apply our contemporary cultural groupings to the far future is like people from a thousand years ago looking at the UK today and asking, "So do these people have a Norman culture or a Saxon culture?" True enough, but I do wish GW would vary the skin tones a bit more in their art work and on their models. Presumably, different planets and regions have differing degrees of sunlight, so there would also be a variety of melanin level adaptions. Almost everyone we see is Elf Flesh pale. I digress however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290962-irony-perseverance-or-tolerance-30k-catherics/page/4/#findComment-3685608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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