MasterofMankind Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I was reading the script of "Warmaster" and I came across a name of a planet,Naogeddon, that rang a bell (The dialogue in question is "Naogeddon resists all assaults. We have no other recourse: obliteration is the only option.") After I searched Lexicanum, I came across this http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Naogeddon#.U3CyQ_mSzIY. Apparently it is the planet that the Deceiver went to stasis to. Is this a coincidence or just a very clever Easter egg? Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Not sure about that, but Ferrus Manus' iron arms seem very ctan to me :) and the man himself was always quiet about how he got them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I'm skeptical the crusade ran into the necrons there tbh, because either they'd be destroyed, and there'd be nothing to find there in M41, or the relevant necron dynasty would be fully awake and being miserable to the Imperium from the Scouring onwards. Although I don't know the state of that age of necron fluff, given the C'tan retcon (after all, the Deceiver was shattered into shards). So most likely imo the resistance were other aliens/humans, later colonists of the planet, maybe influenced by the Triarch Preatorians to ape necrontyr culture, but not necrons themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonerhino Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 There are Necrons that never went to sleep, such as the Triarc Praetorians. So it is entirely posible that the Great Crusade ran into some Necrons. It is even more interesting considering that the Horus Heresy was pridicted by the Necrons. Perhaps we will see some necrons in an up coming novel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I would ignore any 40k fluff to be honest. There is absolutely zero effort from the design studio on fluff and they are terrible at what they do write. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Wasn't it the general consensus that the "Dragon" (proper name escapes me at the moment) in Mechanicum was a C'TAN?. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 The whole Necron stuff on Medusa has been changed to Dark Age of Technology stuff, which is far better IMO, so Ferrus' arms would more likely be the kind of material the Men of Iron were constructed from, or some even darker / more mysterious stuff. However, in the Exemplary Battle's section of the Imperial Fists' portion of Extermination, there's a description of how the VII Legion conquered a small empire of planets - connected by warp-gates - that was centered around what would later be Necromunda. However, just after bringing the planets to compliance, an unknown force of ships wreathed in 'lightning' and 'darkness' began destroying the planets - with each systems' star suddenly bursting into light and then collapsing to cold embers. The Fists managed to save most of Necromunda by destroying the last warp gate, impeding their opponents advance but scarring the planet. Sounds very much like C'tan consuming the stars whilst their necron vassals purged the empire of life. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I was wondering if the mysterious teleporter from Unremembered empire was a construct of the Necrontyr? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I was wondering if the mysterious teleporter from Unremembered empire was a construct of the Necrontyr? I'm pretty sure that was an Eldar webway but I honestly wouldn't know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Well in the new necron dex they get around using the webway: so it's not impossible methinks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3684747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Also, Alpharius's spear, judging from the description in Extermination, sounds suspiciously Necron in origin... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3685342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I was wondering if the mysterious teleporter from Unremembered empire was a construct of the Necrontyr? I'm pretty sure that was an Eldar webway but I honestly wouldn't know. No, Eldar Webways are wraithbone structures that allow safe(ish) travel through the Warp. That thing in Unremembered Empire was a teleporter, that could create an empathic bond with those in its vicinity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3685356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I was wondering if the mysterious teleporter from Unremembered empire was a construct of the Necrontyr? That's my belief. It all fits for it being Necrontyr. Incredibly ancient. Made of black crystal. Explicitly stated as not being based on psychic power (which rules out Eldar in my mind). Necrontyr used Dolman Gates which 'hack' into the Webway. It all fits in my reading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3685378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 It didn't use the Webway though. It relied on empathic thoughts and feelings to be used, something that I think Necrons would have struggled with. It could very well have been Necrons, but I think it's more likely Old One, or another race entirely that we have never heard of. @StoneRhino the Necrons predicted the Heresy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3685418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 The Necrons would struggle with empathy. The Necrontyr were a different case before they gave up their bodies for their metal replacements. Though even then, the Necrons having no emotions is more a relic of their old fluff. The Necron lords and Crypteks etc have seem to have emotions now. I was including the Webway element because a few people mentioned it and I assumed I must have missed that reference - I agree with you that it didn't appear to be using the Webway in any recognisable ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3685482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonerhino Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 @StoneRhino the Necrons predicted the Heresy? Orikan The Diviner, predicted the Fall of the Eldar, Rise of Man, the Horus Heresy and the coming of the Tyranids ~ page 57 Newcron codex. He has other predictions but those are listed because of thier magnitude. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290984-ctan-in-the-horus-heresy/#findComment-3686075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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