New SW Codex Confirmation?

[Nrthstar]

Oh and flakk missiles, why GW just couldn't FAQ us some ALLFATHER DAMNIT FLAKK MISSILES haha

[Valerian]

so leaked pic of the next white dwarf says that wounds characters cause in assaults carry over to the unit. This is pretty good news for SotWB. Bear might still be a better choice (just so hard to go without it!!) but warrior born looks more attractive than it did.

Can you provide a link?  I hadn't spotted that one yet.  Ragnar will be happy.

 

V

[d@n]

If rumours are true about consolidating into a new combat, then Ragnar is going to be mind blowingly good anyway

[Valerian]

If rumours are true about consolidating into a new combat, then Ragnar is going to be mind blowingly good anyway

True :)

 

Also, never mind on the link; found it myself on Faeit 212.

[Valerian]

One thing that Jervis mentioned in one of the very recent YouTube videos on 7e, was that Formations are going to be incorporated into standard 40k now (for both Battle-Forged and Unbound armies).  I'm speculating that Formations would be a very good way of improving some of those 'suboptimal' choices within each codex. For example, I'd never field a Blood Claws pack in 5e or 6e, but they might be incorporated into some kind of 7e Formation that provides a new ability or special feature that would suddenly make them worthwhile. This alone will be a nice potential feature of 7e, if done well. 

 

An example for implementation of a Formation like this would be Ragnar's "Claws of Russ" which could include him and several Blood Claws packs in Drop Pods. 

 

Valerian

[Night Runner]

One thing that Jervis mentioned in one of the very recent YouTube videos on 7e, was that Formations are going to be incorporated into standard 40k now (for both Battle-Forged and Unbound armies).  I'm speculating that Formations would be a very good way of improving some of those 'suboptimal' choices within each codex. For example, I'd never field a Blood Claws pack in 5e or 6e, but they might be incorporated into some kind of 7e Formation that provides a new ability or special feature that would suddenly make them worthwhile. This alone will be a nice potential feature of 7e, if done well. 

 

An example for implementation of a Formation like this would be Ragnar's "Claws of Russ" which could include him and several Blood Claws packs in Drop Pods. 

 

Valerian

Can anyone be kind enough to provide me a link to this.  I can only find the one were Jervis talks about Psychic powers?

[Valerian]

The Psychic Phase and Daemonology:

 

http://youtu.be/RDDcX8a-9uA

 

Maelstrom of War Missions:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE4H93c7U5Y

[Night Runner]

Thanks Valerian, what can I say! As always you out do yourself with your helpfulness. God bless Alabama and all its good people!

 

I am glad there are more army building options.  The formations seem similar to the Dystopian Wars V2 new battle group system.  The unbound force selection I am a bit unconvinced with.  It seems a blessing for power players. I would definitely use it with a pinch of salt.

 

NR

[Valerian]

Organizing Armies:

 

http://youtu.be/7JnMByJVUow

Thanks Valerian, what can I say! As always you out do yourself with your helpfulness. God bless Alabama and all its good people!

 

 

NR

 

Thanks NR.  I couldn't get all three movies in the same post, so I've made two to get them in right. 

[skeletoro]

Latest rumour on fait: battle brothers can now get in each others' transports. Hmm!!!

Also, I haven't yet seen any indication that blessings cannot be cast the turn you arrive from reserves. Given that they're used after the movement phase now, that suggests maybe they'll be fair game.

[Valerian]

Latest rumors, from two sources have Blood Angels in August, and Space Wolves in January 2015, with Dark Eldar in between.  Although I'd really prefer to have gone first, obviously, this isn't too much of an extra wait.  Again, there is an advantage in getting a little space between edition release and codex release anyway.

 

V

[DobbyKroket]

THOSE STINKY ELDAR SLIPPED INTO THE QUE!!!

[Fytharin]

Then why are warehouses saying they're stocking space wolf fliers? That doesn't make sense to me though...warehousing anything for six months with no movement is a lot of warehouse stocking fees for no sales....

[Vor]

They better not take my twc away. I love them. Just reinforced with another six, for a total of 19 now, including Lords and Canis. Though true, I do much prefer my 5 non GW TWC and TW Lord over my now 13 GW ones.

 

They can take Canis though. Or at least make him better.

[Nrthstar]

They better not take my twc away. I love them. Just reinforced with another six, for a total of 19 now, including Lords and Canis. Though true, I do much prefer my 5 non GW TWC and TW Lord over my now 13 GW ones.

 

They can take Canis though. Or at least make him better.

 

 

This is exactly why I've suspended all purchases for my wolves.  I was hoping we were over the summer, but with the starter set being orks/BA I figured it had to be them.  As for the flyer, they could just drop it on us over the summer.  Like Arjac and our TWC box were.  I'll just have to keep playing my dirty crons till we get our book.

[Leif Bearclaw]

But Arjac and TWC already had printed rules before the models were released. I doubt they'll release a new kit, with attendant rules, without a new codex to back it up.

[Valerian]

Then why are warehouses saying they're stocking space wolf fliers? That doesn't make sense to me though...warehousing anything for six months with no movement is a lot of warehouse stocking fees for no sales....

 

Likely a bogus rumor, a red herring.  If someone had really spotted new kit like that, there would be at least one pic of it out there on the interwebz.

[d@n]

With the changes to snap fire and vector strike rules ect fliers are not going to be such a big deal, so I'm not to bothered about flakk missiles or getting a flier. I would like some brand new units to play with, and units that are less competitive, to become more so.but I know there not going to release a better SW codex then the one we have now, so overall I'm glad we are not getting a new one anytime soon.

[KiltedMarine]

The rumored snap fire change does please me, I have to say. But still, for Russ's sake, if the Dress Angels get flakk missiles, why can't we?

 

EDIT for clarity

[logun]

supposedly 40k radio had a rumour posted about us being next after orks. i have know idea who or what to believe anymore. 

[Squark]

Oh and flakk missiles, why GW just couldn't FAQ us some ALLFATHER DAMNIT FLAKK MISSILES haha

Flakk missiles... aren't what we need. They've overpriced, and the last place you want them is on long fangs (which are already flier bait as is). They're... passable in Codex chapters who can hide 6 of them each in their own tactical squad, but for long fangs, you need way to spread out your flier defense (or give it interceptor) in order for it to do anything.

[skeletoro]

 

 

Oh and flakk missiles, why GW just couldn't FAQ us some ALLFATHER DAMNIT FLAKK MISSILES haha

Flakk missiles... aren't what we need. They've overpriced, and the last place you want them is on long fangs (which are already flier bait as is). They're... passable in Codex chapters who can hide 6 of them each in their own tactical squad, but for long fangs, you need way to spread out your flier defense (or give it interceptor) in order for it to do anything.

 

 

To be honest, if the BS -2 snap fire thing is true, anything twin-linked (including prescience if it stays the same) will be good enough to act as anti-air in a pinch. Twin-linked will almost make up for snap fire completely (5/9 chance to hit vs base chance of 6/9). This also has the advantage of spreading out anti-air, which is good, as you say. And twin-linked is useful when NOT shooting fliers, while, if the rumours are true, snap fire is a liability when shooting ground targets.

 

I think TLLC or TLAC razorbacks will be very good next edition - especially with the changes to the vehicle damage chart (need 7+ to explode). Hell, if you're moving cruising speed you're snap firing anyway!

[Nrthstar]

 

 

Oh and flakk missiles, why GW just couldn't FAQ us some ALLFATHER DAMNIT FLAKK MISSILES haha

Flakk missiles... aren't what we need. They've overpriced, and the last place you want them is on long fangs (which are already flier bait as is). They're... passable in Codex chapters who can hide 6 of them each in their own tactical squad, but for long fangs, you need way to spread out your flier defense (or give it interceptor) in order for it to do anything.

 

To be honest, if the BS -2 snap fire thing is true, anything twin-linked (including prescience if it stays the same) will be good enough to act as anti-air in a pinch. Twin-linked will almost make up for snap fire completely (5/9 chance to hit vs base chance of 6/9). This also has the advantage of spreading out anti-air, which is good, as you say. And twin-linked is useful when NOT shooting fliers, while, if the rumours are true, snap fire is a liability when shooting ground targets.

 

I think TLLC or TLAC razorbacks will be very good next edition - especially with the changes to the vehicle damage chart (need 7+ to explode). Hell, if you're moving cruising speed you're snap firing anyway!

 

With that in mind I'll have no problem shooting them down.  I still see wasting points on an aegis def/quad gun as more of a waste than taking Flakk, especially since so much of my wolves are outflanking/drop podding that the little wall doesn't even really benefit me, even moreso now that guard have so much to ignore cover, and I play a lot of gua... AM.  What frustrates me is it's such a small thing, GW could have just popped it into a FAQ.  Anywho, 7 months and counting, till then I'm just going to magnetize my remaining unfinished Grey hunters, termies and TWC.  I'm excited!

[d@n]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and flakk missiles, why GW just couldn't FAQ us some ALLFATHER DAMNIT FLAKK MISSILES haha

 

Flakk missiles... aren't what we need. They've overpriced, and the last place you want them is on long fangs (which are already flier bait as is). They're... passable in Codex chapters who can hide 6 of them each in their own tactical squad, but for long fangs, you need way to spread out your flier defense (or give it interceptor) in order for it to do anything.

 

To be honest, if the BS -2 snap fire thing is true, anything twin-linked (including prescience if it stays the same) will be good enough to act as anti-air in a pinch. Twin-linked will almost make up for snap fire completely (5/9 chance to hit vs base chance of 6/9). This also has the advantage of spreading out anti-air, which is good, as you say. And twin-linked is useful when NOT shooting fliers, while, if the rumours are true, snap fire is a liability when shooting ground targets.

I think TLLC or TLAC razorbacks will be very good next edition - especially with the changes to the vehicle damage chart (need 7+ to explode). Hell, if you're moving cruising speed you're snap firing anyway!

 

With that in mind I'll have no problem shooting them down.  I still see wasting points on an aegis def/quad gun as more of a waste than taking Flakk, especially since so much of my wolves are outflanking/drop podding that the little wall doesn't even really benefit me, even moreso now that guard have so much to ignore cover, and I play a lot of gua... AM.  What frustrates me is it's such a small thing, GW could have just popped it into a FAQ.  Anywho, 7 months and counting, till then I'm just going to magnetize my remaining unfinished Grey hunters, termies and TWC.  I'm excited!

you need, currently to have something on the board, so you don't auto loose and an agis is a good way do protecting it. You don't have to take either of the guns, you can take a coms relay and make your drop pod out flanking army more effective.

[DobbyKroket]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and flakk missiles, why GW just couldn't FAQ us some ALLFATHER DAMNIT FLAKK MISSILES haha

Flakk missiles... aren't what we need. They've overpriced, and the last place you want them is on long fangs (which are already flier bait as is). They're... passable in Codex chapters who can hide 6 of them each in their own tactical squad, but for long fangs, you need way to spread out your flier defense (or give it interceptor) in order for it to do anything.

 

To be honest, if the BS -2 snap fire thing is true, anything twin-linked (including prescience if it stays the same) will be good enough to act as anti-air in a pinch. Twin-linked will almost make up for snap fire completely (5/9 chance to hit vs base chance of 6/9). This also has the advantage of spreading out anti-air, which is good, as you say. And twin-linked is useful when NOT shooting fliers, while, if the rumours are true, snap fire is a liability when shooting ground targets.

I think TLLC or TLAC razorbacks will be very good next edition - especially with the changes to the vehicle damage chart (need 7+ to explode). Hell, if you're moving cruising speed you're snap firing anyway!

 

With that in mind I'll have no problem shooting them down.  I still see wasting points on an aegis def/quad gun as more of a waste than taking Flakk, especially since so much of my wolves are outflanking/drop podding that the little wall doesn't even really benefit me, even moreso now that guard have so much to ignore cover, and I play a lot of gua... AM.  What frustrates me is it's such a small thing, GW could have just popped it into a FAQ.  Anywho, 7 months and counting, till then I'm just going to magnetize my remaining unfinished Grey hunters, termies and TWC.  I'm excited!

you need, currently to have something on the board, so you don't auto loose and an agis is a good way do protecting it. You don't have to take either of the guns, you can take a coms relay and make your drop pod out flanking army more effective.

he does want the gun, he doesn't want the defence line itself