Aegnor Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 This came out a few months ago. Apologies if there's an earlier thread on this - I looked but possibly I administered the Rites of Searching incorrectly upon the cogitator. Has anyone else listened to this audio drama? It's very short, but introduces a couple more interesting ideas: that Cypher was either unmanned to the point of turning and fleeing by daemonically aura that Zahariel could bear, or else that he was trying to lure Zahariel to his death/tainting by the daemon. That Luther distrusted Cypher and was spying on him. That Ourobos is indeed returning to Caliban. That some "settlers" either inadvertently stumbled on the daemon, or deliberately sought it out. Thoughts on what's going on? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291022-cypher-guardian-of-order/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Seems like they're playing good guy card on Cypher, but hard to know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291022-cypher-guardian-of-order/#findComment-3685437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'm still a firm believer that the Tech Priests are Mars are the puppetmasters here. The book that the GK hold so dear and secret probably contains the truth of this. I still think Cypher is making is way across the galaxy in order to shut down the golden throne so that the Emperor can be re-born and correct all the 10,000 years of corruption. Best, Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291022-cypher-guardian-of-order/#findComment-3687124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Master Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'm still a firm believer that the Tech Priests are Mars are the puppetmasters here. The book that the GK hold so dear and secret probably contains the truth of this. I still think Cypher is making is way across the galaxy in order to shut down the golden throne so that the Emperor can be re-born and correct all the 10,000 years of corruption. Best, Paul HERESY! Off to room 42 with you! ;-) DM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291022-cypher-guardian-of-order/#findComment-3687720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleshTearer5000 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I didn't like the way they portrayed Cypher in this one. It was hardly believable that he would 'run away scared' in such a situation, daemon/entity or no, which makes me think it's a ruse on his part to lure Zahariel for some reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291022-cypher-guardian-of-order/#findComment-3691044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I'm glad I wasn't the only one puzzled by this. Basically things got creepy and unsettling and Cypher, not just a space marine but one with a speciality of serving in the shadows and fighting the darkness and evil in the world pretty much wet himself and legged it. He didn't even decide that they should withdraw, he just abandoned his battle brother and fled in terror. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291022-cypher-guardian-of-order/#findComment-3693905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 this could be pre-Cypher, Cypher...or pre-awesome Cypher Cypher (I know this is confusing :P) but basically, we don't know if the 30k Cypher is the same guy, we assume he is, and it is also plausible he underwent a change/revelation between this and the Fall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291022-cypher-guardian-of-order/#findComment-3694179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I still think Cypher is making is way across the galaxy in order to shut down the golden throne so that the Emperor can be re-born and correct all the 10,000 years of corruption. So...the Big E is John Doe Jersey from Dogma? So... the big E is Alanis Morissette? Well, that would be ironic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291022-cypher-guardian-of-order/#findComment-3694310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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