Politix Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I am purchasing two Land Raiders tomorrow for my DW Assault squads. LRCs or LRRs? Or and other suggestions... and please provide reasoning for something other than my two previous choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Standard land raiders and the redeemer should be your two choices. The redeemer is better for melee dw units, the normal land raider is best for dakka based units. The lrc's bonus isn't worth it and the lascannons are a weapon I'll suited for a land raider Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Bahram Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Greatings, Brother!I would say LRC's due you will race forward the enemy (shorter distance) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 LRC's all the way. The redeemer has very short range and it's very hard to put the 2 templates on the same squad. On the other hand the LRC can influence the battle alot from 24" away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politix Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 I will already be fielding 2 Vindis and a Predator Annihilator + a Centurion dev squad ran pure range. I have 1 Dakka DW unit with a libby and Standard of Dev, 2 Assault units with combo TH/SS, a 2x LC. Cant decide of the TDA Interrogator Chappy will be with the SS or LC Unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Are you preparing for 7th Ed? Becase now not only you have 4 Heavy support ,but one of them doesn't exist in Codex Dark Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politix Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 I am basically building for fun. I have no desire for competitive play. If needed I will ally with Codex SM for the Cents if needed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubniggurath Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 LRC is my go-to choice. I played once with a Godhammer, and it wasn't conclusive. Plus, the LRC + Standard of Devastation combo is pretty damn nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I say : all Because magnets are my friends http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/Masteravoghai/Dark%20angels/23E685AA-F028-48A2-A0C0-FEA7F9393D73.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/Masteravoghai/Dark%20angels/F5351735-28C0-404D-A7B4-248D66396403.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I always field a Crusader because of the increased transport capacity. I like running HQ's with my DW units, so prefer the larger transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFisty Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I am one of the few who prefer the Godhammer Land Raider. Lascannons have the range to be useful anywhere on the field. Whether you stay back or charge up into your opponents face, the long range of the lascannons will always be formidable. I feel the only drawback to the Godhammer is the transport capacity of only ten because it prevents us from attaching an HQ to our terminator squads. The frag assault launchers on the other two land raiders are not very useful for terminators squads. They are only a factor for the sergeant and only when assaulting a unit in cover. Since I play pure Deathwing, the Godhammer is the best way to go. Like Avoghai said, use magnets and change them as you see fit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The Crusader has the bolter saturation which is nice. But if combined with vindicators, I'd go for the lascannon LR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Master Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I feel the only drawback to the Godhammer is the transport capacity of only ten because it prevents us from attaching an HQ to our terminator squads. The frag assault launchers on the other two land raiders are not very useful for terminators squads. They are only a factor for the sergeant and only when assaulting a unit in cover.Unless you have 7 X DWK and a Int. Chappie in a LRC ;-) DM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3689637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politix Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 I plan on running one DW squad with 5x TH/SS With Int-Chappy in TDA in an LRC with HB setup. Another DW squad with 3xLC, AC, and SGT with power wep and SB in a LRC with TLLC. How does that sound? Also considering dakka DW squad with SB/PF/CF with TDA Libby and Standard of Dev. Maybe in a drop pod. Thoughts? This is a fun army not a crazy competitive army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3690238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I plan on running one DW squad with 5x TH/SS With Int-Chappy in TDA in an LRC with HB setup. Another DW squad with 3xLC, AC, and SGT with power wep and SB in a LRC with TLLC. How does that sound? It sounds good to me. I would always recommend at least one crusader so you can carry a character with the unit, but like McFisty I find twin-linked lascannons very useful. The way I prioritise the land raider's role is something like this: transport terminators transport terminators draw ineffective fire shoot something with multi-melta shoot something with other weapons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3690294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politix Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 My list so far is starting to become DW heavy. I want to multi wing with Azrael at the head. I was planning on 2 neph fighters. 2 RWK units. 2 vindis, 1 las pred. 2 LRC. 1 drop pod for tactical DW unit. Int chap in TDA. Jump Chappy with assault squad. 4 tact squads with various heavy weps. No scouts. The cent Dev squad will be in an allied detachment down the line. Command squad. Possibly bet squad but undecided. Brothers, I need your advice to help me create this modular army capable of multiple different engagements. Also have 2 libys, 1 additional PA Chappy to maybe fight in 1 Libby is in TDA btw Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3690391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Deathwing cannot take Drop Pods. I would drop the Tactical squads if you are taking Azrael, he unlocks Terminators and Ravenwing Attack squadrons as troops, and therefore is more valuable leading a pure DeathRaven army. I don't know what you have at your disposal, but a fairly solid core for an army list built around Azrael can look something like this. HQ: Azrael Librarian Troops DW Squad 1 (Deepstrike) 7 DW 4 Hammers Assault Cannon DW Squad 2 (Run this with Azrael, they will all have a 4++) 7 DW mix of Claws and Power Fists/Storm Bolters Heavy Flamer RWAS 6 Bikers Power Weapon on Sergeant 2 Melta guns Multi-Melta Attack Bike Elites: Deathwing Knights: 5 DWK RWBK 6 BK 2 grenade launchers Heavy Support: LRC LR Flavour with additional units as desired, or swap out upgrades/units as desired. This is the core I generally run with Azrael, or would if I had 2 Land Raiders ;). I have run Azrael with a non-TH/SS Deathwing Squad and it works well, for the most part, the biggest problem being dropping more points than I like. But it wreaks face, and slaughtered a Dante-led Sang Guard squad. This list lets you have 2 raiders with which to transport your killy units to the front, or hold one back. This list is definitely one which intends to get in the enemies face pretty early on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3690691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politix Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 So I will clarify my my currently models painted/unpainted: HQ Company Master Libby in TDA INT Chappy in TDA Chappy in PA Chappy with Jump-pack Libby in PA (maybe us as Ezekiel) Elites 5x TH/SS Termies (do I have to have a SGT with PW/SB?) 5x Termies with 2x LC (w/ 1 termie with AC) 5x Tactical Termies w/ AC, SGT with PW/SB, and 1 with CF 1x Dread w/ MM and DCCW Fast Attack 5x Assault Marines w/ 2x Plasma Pistol and SGT with CS/PS 3x RW Bikes.. nothing special there Heavy Support 2 Vindis- big bada boom 1Pred Anni- TLLC and LC sponsons Transport Rhino with pintle mounted SB MISC Working on a command squad which will be for Azrael or CM (undecided) wth various weps to include meltaguns/ plasma gun Apothecary, Standard Bearer with Company Standard Troops 1x 10 Man Tac Squad with Plasma Gub, Plasma Cannon and SGT with Plasma Pistol/CS 1x 10 man Tac squad with Flamer, Missile Launcher (fragg/krak), SGT with CS/BP 1x 5 man Combat squad with SGT with CS/BP, 1 Flamer That sums up usable units... 3 Centurions in box atm but can't use as per codex without allies. They will be Devs however. Any advice always appreciate (and kinda needed it seems) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291139-need-advice-bother-of-the-i-legion/#findComment-3690722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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