minigun762 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Most videos I see have the base work being done after the model is complete and glued onto the base. Why can't you just finish the base first and then glue the model ontop? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 You can. It's just a matter of preference. I prefer to finish my models, glue sand to base, paint base, then seal. That's just me. I've also done the following, especially for mass production: 1. Paint figure separate. 2. Sand and paint base separate. 3. Attach figure to base. 4. Seal figure. This allows you to do big batches of bases and not have to worry about working the glue around the figure's feet, boots, tentacles, pigeon toes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3690107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 I like that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3690139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMasterAralia Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Quick question for you then! how do you secure your guys' feet to the finished sanded base? Normal superglue will just run in between the grains of sand and prevent any thorough gluing, right? I've always glued my models onto the base and then sanded it afterwards. Unless I was using stone slabs, that could works as a flat surface for supergluing feet onto. Undercoat whole thing, paint and seal. Done :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3690201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Pin the mini to the base. I use paper clips: cut a short bit, drill a hole in the foot and in the base at the appropriate place. Paper clip is also handy for handling the mini (stuck in a cork) while painting without touching. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3690410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMasterAralia Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 okay, that is really smart... will try that with the next squad :) thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3690817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle captain corpus Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 It also depends upon your basing. I currently use a lot of resin bases, which are obviously pre sculpted. I want these to look fab and as such I paint them separately of the model itself. The models are painted on standard bases, with only a tiny dot of superglue holding them in place. That way I can quickly just "click" them off the painting base and pin them onto their newly painted, finished one. Thus not having to worry about paint from the base or basing material going onto the legs etc. I find it works fine and allows me to also play around with the base more! BCC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3690850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I'd say a lot of people do the base before attaching the model, but it requires drilling and pinning, which is annoying, but should probably be done anyways for models like assault marines. Me personally I base before attaching, but what I do is put a little bit of white/blue tack on the foot and then line it up on the base, and transfer the tack onto the base, thereby masking the spots where I would need to glue the model so there is one or two nice clean spots to glue the figure on after base is complete. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3691686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosRaptor Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 For my regular infantry, all I do is texture paint --> drybrush --> wash, after the rest of the mini is finished and stuck to the base. I just try to be careful around the feet. When I did my Forgefiend though, texture paint on a large base wasn't practical so I used regular modelling sand instead. Before I stuck the sand on though, I placed the model on the base and drew around its feet with a pencil, so I knew where not to glue/sand. Turned out reasonably well I think! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3691693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 Before I stuck the sand on though, I placed the model on the base and drew around its feet with a pencil, so I knew where not to glue/sand. Turned out reasonably well I think! Seems like a smart idea to me. You could even take it a step further and put some kind of mold down in that area that you could then remove. Maybe Green Stuff? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3691716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosRaptor Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Before I stuck the sand on though, I placed the model on the base and drew around its feet with a pencil, so I knew where not to glue/sand. Turned out reasonably well I think! Seems like a smart idea to me. You could even take it a step further and put some kind of mold down in that area that you could then remove. Maybe Green Stuff? I haven't tried it, but I don't see why not. I imagine Green Stuff would be relatively easy to remove afterwards too - you could probably just peel it off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3691789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Before I stuck the sand on though, I placed the model on the base and drew around its feet with a pencil, so I knew where not to glue/sand. Turned out reasonably well I think! Seems like a smart idea to me. You could even take it a step further and put some kind of mold down in that area that you could then remove. Maybe Green Stuff? I haven't tried it, but I don't see why not. I imagine Green Stuff would be relatively easy to remove afterwards too - you could probably just peel it off. Why waste good green stuff. Try blu tac. Mark round where the feet will sit then put blobs of blu tac in the right area. Doesn't harden so you can re-use it when you need to. Also doing it that way gives some weight to the model making it look as if it squashes stuff underfoot rather than hovering on the top of grass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3692440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoparden Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I prefer to have my miniatures interact with the base/basing. Therefore I make each base separately for each miniature as I build the miniature. In truth I make a bunch of bases and then figure out which pair of legs (or modified pair of legs) goes on which base as I build the rest of the miniature to get interesting poses. Since I use a lot of cork bark in my basing I always pin my miniatures to the base for added strength. Usually I leave the miniature on its base through the entire painting process. My basing is painted mostly with pigment mixes and therefore I like it when I get some on their feet since dust would get all over the place anyway "when in war". Examples: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3693068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 With models I buy now, i.e. brand new, I'd always do the base separately. I've not got that luxury with most second-hand rank and file troops, which means it's somewhat different. Alternatively, it doesn't really matter if it's just rubble or whatever - as I can tidy around as appropriate. It's generally not obscuring detail or causing problems - but I'd definitely want to base it first, even if I wasn't painting it first, as a matter of choice. Sometimes nice to blend the two in some way, and easiest if you know where they're standing, and how they are going to influence one another (e.g. dust/mud/etc.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3693287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 If I'm doing rubble/dirt/sand I'll base it first. Of late I've been doing more industrialised bases which I do a lot of different washes on so I paint them separately. Edit: Though I'm going to try weathering powders soon so I'd apply those to the model/base after attaching them together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291164-base-with-or-without-the-model-on/#findComment-3693536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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