daboarder Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Thats right the allies matrix is in, and GW has stayed true to form and taken this opportunity to put another boot into chaos armies. Chaos and AM are now come the apocalypse, Hope you guys hadn't invested in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Well, now you need to wait for Forge World.Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Makes me glad my chaos marines only allied with Chaos demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=8876&d=1400622573 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Well. :cuss.Sucks to be us again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Wait, we're allies of convenience with Necrons, but not the AM? I mean, I guess it sort of makes sense since the AM got wrapped into the "Armies of the Imperium" and obviously we're never going to be allies with the Grey Knights, but still, that sucks. Actually, I won't lie. I only cared about the Imperial Knights. So wait, how does the "Unbound" thing work with the Allies matrix? If I've heard correctly, doesn't it allow you to use whatever models are in your collection as a single army, regardless of Codex? Or is that misinformation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 GW...constantly making me sigh...and just wish for some sense. FW's upcoming Vraks reset will again save the day. Thank :cussing ANYONE for FW, because GW 'proper' is :cussing dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I don't understand the Necrons thing either. Then again, after the stupid C'tan retcon, I don't know or understand the Space Egyptians at all now. However, with the Necron technology being counter-warp stuff...I'm still dissapointed they didn't make a separate thing for the AM and Chaos. Even more so now that they're still ignoring things like Genestealer Cults and we now have to wait on FW to do LatD, right in the middle of their Heresy hardon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 So wait, how does the "Unbound" thing work with the Allies matrix? If I've heard correctly, doesn't it allow you to use whatever models are in your collection as a single army, regardless of Codex? Or is that misinformation?"Come the Apocalypse" armies can ally now, but have certain penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Really? Does the 12" rule apply still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 from what rumours suggest, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Just keep pushing me GW, I think its your insidious plot to have me buy more resin crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Well, I never bought demons or IG allies to begin with. However, things like this would just push me to pack up shop, not buy more expensive crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 FW isnt crap. FW is the only one putting out anything that respects the setting. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Delightful. Going to have to see how this actually affects me and the games I'll be playing in the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachymike123 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Well, looks like I'll be using FW lists to ally my traitor guard then. However, they mostly fight as separate armies anyway, so no biggies. That said, I'm really not that concerned. I'm not a tourny player (and its no disrespect to those who are anyway), but for my games with my mates this'll probably be ignored. I see the allies matrix as a guideline as opposed to a hard rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 From the application that it was another tool useful for us in a codex rife with weak options, it is another disadvantage to those who don't use, don't have, or refuse to use FW. On the other hand, AM is a new update and not many people have gone out of their way to make the combined armies. Still, even with unbound, taking away things isn't making options or making it fun for more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 It comes... it goes... At worst, use them as Cultists and Russes as Defilers or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I'd rather play Ultramarines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Shame we can't just use their Codex in official tournaments. Would help us massively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 It's indeed a shame... ...but on the other hand, maybe that means the IA13 rumours just got a bit more plausible? :) I know, I know, I'm an incurable optimist...but I play Tzeentch, hope is what I got! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 IA13 is a given really. It makes complete sense and FW isnt staffed by people who completely disregard the setting they write for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 When you're selling a higher end product then the mainline, you want to invest something worthwhile into it. Obviously they're likely to keep and update it for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Don't forget that is from White Dwarf and full details will be out on Friday. So don't get disheartened. I'm sure options will be there. Even if it means using an Unbound list to create a list for fluff over cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Looks like I'll have to build up my traitor guard as their own army. Anyone know when that renegades and heretics update was coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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