captain sox Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Hello everyone. Welcome back, and a huge Thanks to Argos, Kurgan and the gang for reviving our beloved site! First off... I have an Imperial Knight whose armour I removed and stripped of paint. The skeleton remains intact and painted. I was wondering what reactions the brotherhood would have if I painted a camouflage scheme on it. It would be like an old school vehicle camo, not like the moder "digital" camo you see nowadays. No pics yet, I have the armour painted Castellan green, and am debating what to do... Second, do you model dozer blades on all of your tanks models, or is that corny? What about communication arrays? Searchlights? Do they all get the same Last, how many accessories do you equip your infantry with? are they all carrying kit, or is it random? Or is one poor sod the mule and carries more than the others? Since I've only built my one tank (Chimera) I want to see what others do, and what looks good. Thanks everyone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 On the first question, I would find a camouflaged knight a bit odd, although there are really no rules for freebooters, so why not? It makes as much sense as tiger stripes on a space marine... As far as the second question, I'm a bit lazy when it comes to the accessories sprue, my tanks don't even have the basics, like searchlights and smoke launchers, even though those are standard on most vehicles. I'm also a bit of a WYSIWYG fanatic, paying the ten points for the hull-mounted lascannons (useless!) on my LRBTs instead of telling my opponent that they're heavy bolters. Ditto with the HB/HF hull mount on my fleet of chimeras...I never "counts as" them into the other option. Why is that important? Well, I want to spam vehicles, therefore I keep them cheap...I don't pay for dozer blades, pintle-stubbers, HK missiles, and the like...therefore, I don't model them! Actually, I do have one chimmy with a pintle-stubber and one with a stormbolter...I tend to leave them at home to save points, lol, since fielding them would "obligate" me to pay for the upgrade...but I'm weird like that. Anyway, I think you're better off modeling everything that you *might* want. The way WYSIWYG is usually put into tournament rules, if you pay for it, it must be on the model...which is not the same as saying everything on the model has to be paid for...so saying you have a dozer blade when there's none on the model would fail, but saying "that dozer blade is just for show" would be fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3697102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 magnetise them! 2 magnets inserted in the dozer blade and 2 magnets place inside the russ's hull will allow you to switch them on and off. Before they were pretty meh, but i've heard that in 7th edition they also help with ramming so perhaps they might have become a bit more interesting on forward tanks such as hellhounds etc. as for old school camo, mine is based upon the german WWII camouflage, seen here in action: http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb281/amorfatipictures/DSC_7539_zpsfb140bb1.jpg http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb281/amorfatipictures/IMG_20140502_172936_zps2tkxzuxv.jpg http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb281/amorfatipictures/IMG_20140524_135642_zpsecxkfefm.jpg I use various patterns (striped, blobs, dotted) since in my regiment every crew is responsible for camouflaging their own vehicle. basically choosing the camo pattern comes down to picking the amount of colours you will use (2, 3, 4? or even more?), and what colours. doing the same pattern all over will become boring, and even with all the different patterns my army still has a unified feel to it due to all the colours being the same Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3697212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The more 'Stuff' is going on, the better. I put on searchlights and coms where ever I can. Dozers are magnetized on the 2 LR I use them on regularly. I haven't found much use for it on the other tanks yet. As for the Knight? As said above, no rules for the Freeblades, though Camo Knight is sort of a mutually exclusive thing in my opinion. I am sure you can make them look similar with your army without actually panting camo on him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3697241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_baz Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 With the size of that model a camo would work well, as you can easily break up the silhouette with large irregular wedges of colour either in a classic tank camo or with a dazzle based scheme. If it was me colour wise I would be looking at grey's / blues. As most things will be looking up at the Knight the background would be the sky. Look forward to seeing most pics tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3697254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think it would look great, but you'd need to get the scheme right on such a large model and still retain some of the Knightly aspects even if its just the heraldry on the shield. As for assembling models do what you like - stick to WYSIWYG as much as you can but certain things like grenades and searchlights aren't that important. All my troopers have the additional bit (remember to match the empty knife ones with the bayonet guns) and the odd one has grenades. For vehicles I stick to the basics mostly but I'm planning on really tooling up a couple of Chimeras for Veterans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3697395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Hermit Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'm a big, big fan of WYSIWYG. So, that said, I'm loath to put extras and stuff on my tanks and stuff (beside stowage and other innocuous decorative gear). However, I fell in love with dozer blades on my LRBTs back in 2nd Ed. when I started playing, so there's always one in my collection. But, yeah... searchlights, smoke launchers, etc, all get modeled. As for kitting up my infantry, I'm all for it. Back when I first bought my Apoc. Formation IG Infantry Company the idea was to make them a Light Infantry sort of unit so everyone got a bunch of kit. Everyone. I've since added a couple scout sentinels to the force (with plans on another three) and the first of what will be a trio of LRBTs. I've found that getting a bunch of WW2-era model kits of, well, kit helps dress up the vehicles nicely. I started my path of modeling in Junior High School on Tamiya WW2 model armor and such, so I swear by their kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3697447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I like the idea of dazzle camo on a knight! Not a brown/green scheme, though, it'd only really look good in maritime or urban colors... /edit/ ...or something distinctive that isn't actually going to hide the baby titan, just serves as "distinctive markings" ...like red and light+dark gray three-tone dazzle camo! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3698245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhawk3015 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I was thinking something similar only very bright. Pink and Black was the plan, with silver undercarrage and gold trip. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3698544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Have another modelling question. What plough goes on the Russ? I have 3 Chimera plough, but I noticed on a bits site there's a different one with more hydraulics. Is this the one for the Russ or does the Chimera one work. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3723634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 The one on the bits site is most likely from the old Russ kit. The "new" Russ doesn't have any ploughs but the Chimera does. You can look at the sprues on the GW site, they're the last pictures: Leman Russ, Chimera. I've not used them but I think the Chimera plough should go on the Russ ok. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3723662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Theres another one on the Tank Accessories sprue. It is similar to the Chimera one but has extra bits Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3723784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 The tank accessory sprue is from the old vehicle boxes, so the plough from that should fit on a new Russ model without much effort :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3723827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhawk3015 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The plows are interchangeable. I used both types on my armored force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3724125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 The Leman Russ in my ETL III vow is the first model I have attempted to use magnets, so the blade is not a permanent fixture Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3724130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Welcome to the wonderful world of magnets, it's always a good idea to start with the basics - as long as you make sure to mark sides of magnets etc so you don't get one the wrong way round it's quite easy to get a nice array of swappable parts. The real effort is figuring out how to efficiently magnetise bits that don't easily lend themselves to it, but it's always worth it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291443-a-few-questions-about-modellingpainting-ig-specific/#findComment-3724316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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